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Posted by karnyah S.E QLD, AUST (My Page) on Mon, Oct 25, 04 at 6:00
| Please don't cringe when I ask this question, but I do love them, they make such a good sound barrier, and boy do I need that, plus a good wind break and good nesting places for the birds and shade for cattle. Now can they be planted by root cutting, or cuttings.
Karn |
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hi karn there are lots of people for them and against them I had one were I previously lived and would have them again as I found they were good for the wind looked great branches right down to the ground but dont know how to propagate them ,and havent seen them in nurserys for a while, sorry I havent answered your other email yet (holly hock seeds)
lorraine |
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Karn,
to be honest, you must be very very short sighted to think that you need this species.
It is this kind of attitude that has resulted in there being a weed problem to start with.
Im sure that you can find a big list of native species or exotic species which have been proven to do a good job of wind breaks and noise barriers without posing a threat to the landscape-esp in SE QLD. I suggest for your own reputation that you shouldnt persue this idea of yours
Kris |
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| oops sorry didn't mean to offend karn |
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Lorraine we had a big cattle property in NSW, and we found they were the only trees that sheltered our pastures from the icy winds that came through in winter from Orange and Bathurst,our pastures always came through winter and summer better than anyones elses, plus it gave fantastic protection for the cattle and extra roughage feed when they trimmed the bottoms of the trees. Have you ever seen and smelt the wood from the Canphur Laurel, it is absolutely beautiful, they make beautiful bowls and furniture from it.
Any way no matter what anyone thinks, I like them, and I think you can mix natives and exotics and they can live happily ever after. |
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thanks karn I agree, we are on acres too, and if I can find some they will be going in as the wind here has to be seen to believed and though we have a lot of natives most of them just wont stand up to the wind the previous owners told me the reason that a lot of the trees have two trunks is because the wind has blown them down at some time and they have re-grown but I can understand that in some states they would be weedy, but dont think they are here ( I hope)also I agree about the smell of the wood (heaven)have seen some beautiful thinks carved out of it too the grain is lovely
lorraine |
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Go for it Lorraine, you may find a Nursery down that way that sells them, or try cuttings. All trees have a purpose and place in our environment, you will find that when you stop the howling winds your soil in your paddocks will improve, and you will not get soil errosion caused by the wind, that has to be a plus.
We have at least 3 nests of birds in each tree, and it is so cool in there for them. Anyway have fun. Karn |
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You guys are so ill educated, go and read some literature on this species, Im not even going to defend myself.
Kris |
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thanks for the insult kris , yes I know the pro's and cons but I dont believe they are a problem here as have looked in my land care booklet and no mention of them being a problem, 'and sorry to disappoint you but I dont consider myself uneducated thanks very much , have you ever thought that what is considered a weed or a problem in queensland . might not be here ,but if they are I will stand corrected , but will not stand by and be insulted re -my intelligence or karns
lorraine |
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Karn, you are now in SE queensland. to judge by your address. If you,re going to plant CLs, I pray that you're not close to my place. I must pull out 8 or 10 CLs a week, apart from the hectic task of removing the established ones before they seed any further. Just as southern states have different rules to Qld, the corollary is that Qld has different rules to the inferior states. Look at what works here before blindly applying former patterns. To do otherwise would be as ignorant as Kris in his characteristic rudeness implies.
Tony |
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hi tony if you lived closer I would come and take the plants off your hands for you as they certainly dont self seed here ,well they never did when I had them growing in my previous home, please dont think we are inferior down here in vic as we arent ,I thought we were all garden lovers no matter where we live and that we all try and help one another , isnt that what garden web forums etc are for? I think next time I will send karn an email instead of replying on garden web!
lorraine |
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Tony please dont refer to Victoria as a inferior State, none of our States are.
This is Australia we are a nation of one. I may have been born in Townsville, and now lived in Brisbane, but I spent the middle 45 years of my life in Melbourne and believe me Victoria is not inferior. This is a gardening forum, I see that Karn wants to plant a invasive weed tree in Qld, which isn't on that list in Victoria, well Ok explain to her why it is a weed, why she cannot grow it here in the warmer climate, link her with a site where she can read about it. And Kris you know so much, why dont you give her a list of trees similar to what she wants to plant or natives that are not invasive that would fit into Karns life style.
Come on everyone lets help Australia here. MM. |
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| With the degree of wholesale tree clearing that is going on in Queensland, you might one day appreciate the camphor laurel - it might be all that you've got left. |
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| Thank you Lorraine, MM and Wombat, as for you Wooroonooran, you really need a very good lesson in manners, you are only young, and may think yourself surperior going to uni, your not, didn't your parents ever teach you any maners at all, I was finding that the best way to treat you is to compeletely ignore you, you are not worth the time of day, I have noticed with other postings how rude you are to others, it is people like you that give conservationists a bad name. I have not planted the bloody seeds or cuttings, I just asked a question, and just wanted a simple answer without the insults, and yes the way trees are being cut down, and are going to be cut down with the population growth in Australia, we may be thankful for all those trees you call weeds, if you think straight for one minute these so called weed trees could be put to use to save the native trees from being destroyed, so instead of being rude, be nice and more may take notice of you. |
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| You'll never be able to buy one in SEQ. |
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karnyah
best if you email me, hey!
Kris |
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- Posted by Liatris FraserCoast,Qld (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 7, 04 at 17:13
| Karnyah, best not to, perhaps?! I think you're very brave, though. Anyway ....... I'm not sure where abouts you live in SEQ, but if you're anywhere near a national park it is illegal to grow them. |
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They are illegal near NP's thats good to know.
I wonder what the definition of 'anywhere' is.
They must have to take into account the distance that a bird such as the Top Knot Fruit pidgeon can fly. Since they have the habit of migrating from PNG and NQLD into SE QLD and NSW, I cant see that 'anywhere' is to far for comfort.
Kris |
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| I know. When you consider some of the things that have migrated from NSW to Qld, it is really scary what your comfort zone is. |
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| Don't worry all I am not going to plant them. karn |
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Alison,
what has migrated from NSW to QLD?
Please explain?
Kris |
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| karnyah, In substitution for a camphor laurel, there are a number of other local species you can try. For example, tulipwood (Harpullia pendula) is quite a good little shade tree. For something a little larger, some of the Flindersia species may work well. It really depends on what you wanted the camphor laurel to do (shade, shelter, animal habitat etc). Some of the Ficus species are ideal but watch out for those roots. Less invasive species such as Ficus coronata or Ficus fraseri may be appropriate. Regards Ian |
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| Thank you Ian for your suggestion on other species of other trees, can you come up with something with the denseness of the Camphur Laurel, that would make me very happy, I live on a very busy road, continual traffic, mainly semitrailers up and down all day, the noise and deisel fumes are unbelievable, I was trying to create white noise. I do like the Ficus species though Ian, there is no trouble with roots because they would be going out in the paddock along the fence as a screen. But just in case no one saw my earlier posting, I am not going to plant the Camphur Laurel. |
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| Good on you Karn, yes great trees those Ficus I have one outside my bathroom window so the neighbours get blocked out, and its only about 20ft from the house, its 10ft high at present and flying away to be a good screen, and if it does uproot the house before I die of old age, well so be it, lucky we are up on 4ft steel stumps. MM |
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- Posted by Liatris FraserCoast,Qld (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 10, 04 at 0:31
| Poor Karnyah! Don't let yourself feel bullied. If roots are not a problem Kurrajongs might do the job for you. Alternately, you might want to consider a thickly planted 'hedge' of fast-growing natives. The folks at Yuruga would be able to advise you on the best varieties for your purpose and conditions. Pam |
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| Lol, your so funny MM, thank you MM and Pam, I will consider the ones that have been mentioned I do like ficus, they are quite quick growing, I don't know much about Karrajongs though Pam, the area I have to cover is about 300 meters, a fair strip aye. karn |
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| There's a place not far out of town on the Expressway (trucks all night) that has erected a plywood wall along the fence line. It is directly opposite the house, which is set about 400m back from the road, and would be approximately as long as the house. I'm not sure how effective it is in blocking the sounds of approaching traffic but I think it would give some relief. I'm on a hill in town, in view of the Expressway which is a long way off. But when the wind is blowing from the East, it brings the roar of the trucks right to my bedroom. My previous house was on the main street and, before the expressway was built, the traffic rumbled by constantly. We carelessly left a car parked out the front one night and a truck ran over it. It was my son's 11th birthday and I don't think he has ever got a birthday present to match that one! I learnt, more or less, to cope with the constant rumbling, the cracks in the walls, the gear changes and compression braking (we were in between two sets of traffic lights) but the last straw came when some "working girls" set up house around the corner. They apparently used to advertise their wares on CB and were apparently pretty good in the PR business. They got quite a few customers. Now our house was only about 1.5 metres back from the street and my bedroom was at the front of the house. I could cope with the trucks passing - they came and they went. But the customers parked their trucks in the street while conducting their business and left the motor running!! And do you know that refrigerated trucks have TWO MOTORS!! By the time the girls moved to other premises, I was ready for the men in white jackets to take me away. I know how you feel, Karnyah. I would have planted bombs if I'd known where to get them. |
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| Thank you Wombat, at least you know what I am going through, I am on a hill above the road, so a fence would be out of the question I am afraid, I think I will be dead anyway before any tree grew high enough to keep out the noise and black deisel fumes. I hope I don't ever have the experiences you have had though, it is a wonder that you have remained sane. If anyone has ever been down Tin Can Bay road, well they would know what the traffic noise is like. How very true Wombat, I feel like planting anything I can get my hands on if it would make a difference. Karn karn |
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Gee, karn, your Q upped the traffic on the Trees forum :)
Do you visit the Native forum?, we've been discussing trees for SE Qld. Some that might suit you. There's a brilliant (IMO) tree person down your way, I'll send you his name by PM, you might come across him at a field day etc
Cheers
Rose |
Here is a link that might be useful: a short-cut to it
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| lol, did you???? Thank you Rose. karn |
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| Gotta get around to these things karn; rushing 's bad for you. |
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| lol, your a card Rose. karn |
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| Rose, I followed your short cut - very interesting. Particularly interested in Syzygium Francisii. But I'll have to wait until the climate warms up a bit down my way. What do you think of that one, Karn? |
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| Good one, thank you Rose. karn |
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| I think Syzygium Francisii are slowish growing if I remember the details on the ID tag ... |
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