Rev d'Or did very well in Earthkind trials for Texas gardens, so may do well for you, too. I like a modern red climber in my garden - Dublin Bay. It reblooms well - no fragrance, though. It can definitely take the heat. Anita

thanks all, I didn't even think of cl. "Lady Hillingdon" and I do want the bush form of Lady Hillingdon, but for the house would prefer a more lemony hue to go against the pale gray house. I just added "Lamarque" to my order from rogue valley, yesterday, I'm getting two "Westside Road Cream Tea" rosebushes to flank the front of the pathway to my front door, they will be side by side with "Mlle. Cecille Brunner"( the smaller c. 4' tall form) with an arbor in back of these with yellow climbing roses "Marachel NIel" and "Cecline Foreestier" and French lavender on the other side of the arbor so the view from my front door will be of lavender, yellow climbers, and "Mme. Berkeley" and "Clementina Carboinieri" off to one side, where I'm planting a mandarin orange tree for evergreen winter interest. The yellow climber I'm searching for will be on this side of the house. Originally I planned for cl. "Cramoisi Superieur" but decided I love yellow roses more than red roses. I still can't decide although I'm leaning towards "Alistair Stella Gray"which I've grown before, or "Leys Perpetual" although I swore I'd never again buy a rose that I have never seen in "person". so many beautiful roses, and finite rose real estate. Lux.

No worries, Joseph - and my apologies, Sheila and Vac; just to clarify - I certainly didn't mean to imply that ANY posting on an old thread was 'bad'!! I agree wholeheartedly about threads being invaluable as an information resource, with no time limit. That's always been the way on GardenWeb forums as far as I know. You used to be able to search for topics and find decades-worth of excellent advice and knowledge, on growing a particular rose for example - a fantastic resource. Not sure if we can still do this though, and my brain is too tired to think about it at the moment. It can just get a bit muddled, sometimes, I think, when people don't realise it's an old thread because they've just seen it on Houzz's more recent introduction of 'helpful' suggestions of (usually UN-) 'Related' posts and go ahead and respond to the OP, thinking it's a current question they're seeking answers to - like Lily's good example of the lady who isn't in fact still pregnant 5 years later(!) - when it really only relates to a long-ago sorted garden issue. Then more people see it and start trying to help, and we're away...! Not really a major problem, as problems go... :-) But I think maybe with all the recent blurring of the content of this specialised forum with the Modern/General Roses forum through too much indiscriminate cross-posting, it's as good a time as any to raise awareness of this other, somewhat annoying for some, muddling-up issue. I really do think keeping the forum working well and more clearly on-topic (bar the occasional mention of a more modern rose or two, and those always welcome OT posts of regular posters) will make for it being a more enjoyable and useful resource in the long-term, for all of us.

All right, with the help of HMF, I've narrowed it down to Awakening, Iceburg, Cecile Brunner Climbing, and Rosarium Uetersen. In other locations, I'm interested in Fair Bianca, The Fairy, Crown Princess Marguerite, Abraham Darby, Zephirine Droughin (definitely getting to grow on a fence!!), and Souvenir de la Malmaison. HOW do you narrow it down>? :) I've discovered that I'm only interested in the 'double ruffled' and fairly continuous bloom varieties. Dirt Digger, thank you so much for the list. Going to look those up!