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Posted by diesel01 NSW (My Page) on Wed, Oct 26, 05 at 9:49
| could any1 pls let me know where i could find Madam isaac perreire & centifolia, i hear these 2 plants have immense fragrance, i have looked everywhere but have had no luck.also if any1 has these plants could you pls let me know how they performed with you, growth smell disease etc. ty |
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RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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| I can find them in my local nursery, but they're grafted on Fortuniana rootstock, which is great here for WA, but not particularly for NSW and other parts of Australia (where Multiflora and Canina, for example, are preferred). Without suitable rootstock roses can only strive in our harsh climate so I suggest you to look further. Try some smaller nurseries, which are usually more passionate about growing better roses and are eager to help you find out some rare rose gems -- in contrast, big nurseries usually stock only "best-buys" and those roses "that can justify people's investment" (let me quote one sales rep. from one big nursery). PS. Re. fragrance, beware -- rose perfume tends to evaporate pretty quickly here in Oz. Thank that to the heat and low humidity. So even the most perfumed rose won't be very fragrant if you keep her flowers opened for too long in your garden. As soon as it starts to open, cut the flower and put in your vase. |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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Hi Tom,
Bare root season is over but these might have them potted.
Reliable roses http://www.reliableroses.com.au/cat-sects2.html
Treloar roses http://www.treloar-roses.com.au/index2.html Cheers
Judy |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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- Posted by meryl2 Sydney/Blue Mts (My Page) on
Sun, Oct 30, 05 at 2:19
| Diesel, if you have a good local nursery (ie, not a chain but a manageably small nursery owned by people genuinely into plants), just ask whether the roses you want can be ordered in. Chances are they can be and, in my experience, you won't be charged extra for the special order. In winter, of course, as Judy suggests, you can obtain rarer roses directly, by mail order. |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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| ty to those who cared to answer i will try, i was also hoping to hear some comments by any1 who has grown them. but thanks again. p.s..tom i know roses dont hold ther smell very long in oz specially in humid districts but i am trying to grow the most fragrant roses possible. So far fragrant cloud is by far the most fragrant rose in my garden. |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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- Posted by meryl2 Sydney/Blue Mts (My Page) on
Sun, Oct 30, 05 at 19:24
I have Mme Isaac but she is only up to her second spring, so I don't know if my comments will be very helpful.
She is indeed very perfumed, with that lovely "old rose" scent. You will need lots of space to grow her as a shrub because she throws huge arching canes. It may be better to train her on a fence or some other structure. In my (very short) observation, she puts on a splendidly lavish show in spring with the occasional flower thereafter. This may not be typical. She seems to cope quite well with a fair bit of shade. One of mine (I put in two) is shaded by a Paulonia which has become a huge tree in about two seconds but is nevertheless flowering almost as much as the other in full sun. |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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I too was interested in buying one of these for 2006 as bare rooted stock but was a bit put off by a comment in James Young's aussie book on roses that it is "a bit straggly and sometimes prone to mildew". But the fact that it's strongly fragrant and those large carmine-pink flowers do me in every time when I look at the photographs in my books. I am such a sucker for a good photo; would love to see one growing in someone's garden.
Janine |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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- Posted by lozza Vic. Oz. (My Page) on
Wed, Nov 23, 05 at 1:30
| Lanine, Why don't you run up the road to Silvan. I can show you Mme.Isaac. Melways 121 D10. |
RE: looking for ,madam isaac perreire
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Thanks, Lozza - I was going to come last weekend but after the heavy rain, did not fancy driving up all those dirt roads leading up to your farm.
I think I've missed my chance to see Mme Isaac at Silvan, haven't I? If not, perhaps this coming weekend...but definitely not by foot !
Janine |
Mme Isaac Periere
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Hey, Meryl, how's your Mme Isaac doing now?
Janine in Dandenong Mountains, SE of Melbourne. |
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