The two new large beds that I sought help on from this site have been planted now - one with 5 marie van houtte and 5 crabapples- and because I am not as organised as I would like to think - with those roses that I didn;t know where else to put them - nevada, gloire lyonnaise, dove and mrs br cant and a white dogwood. The other big new bed has a variety of about 50 roses in yellows/ mauve and peachy pinks then red and deeper pinks - all just put in. Photos of these in another year or so. Outside my back door I still have about 20 roses to find a place to plant - will I ever stop buying and feeling guilt every time I open my back door and realise I have plants to put in.

5 crepuscules on front balcony

crepuscle weeping and unknown callistemon in front of balcony

lamarque up established gum tree - loaded with buds

Leonnie Viennot up gum next to lamarque

monsieur tillier (archduke whatever actually) - backside of lamarque in background

dark lady - most stunning of the reds in front bed

I love the idea of the rose up the tree, now I know where to plant the Lamarque when I get it, there is a big Ironbark in my yard that is all trunk with a top knot.
Marion

Marion - I think the reason for the success of lamarque up that gum - and now leonie viennot starting - is the frequency and quantity of water as every time someone has a bath or shower, the sprinklers turn on and there is also heaps of cow manure around the gum - I do not think it would work without that water as the gum would be a better scavenger. But having said that, the stupid one here is currently planting a new gigantea next to a massive gum on the hill above my house to replace one that died, and every morning I troop up and hand water a wedding day I have next to another gum and I am about to plant a rambling rector and a gift from a friend here that was not kifsgate - I do see these massive roses bedecking the gums on my hill and I am not really dealing with how they will cope with the gums taking all the water - but I am taking the advice of Larry from rose exchange and planting them next to the gum trunk not out further where there is likely to be more feeder roots - it is an exercise that is likely to end in tears unless one has a biocyle to automatically water every day or two like Lamarque and Leonie have but then hope sprinks eternal and you never know, maybe I will get these giants to take up on the hill ....

Visited a great gharden today with 600 roses and many many companion plantings - superb - fell in love with Complicata, Vanguard and Mrs Oakley Fisher - not all toghether that different in hue - so now to find a place to put them and a place to purchase them from ....