| I think I settled the question to my satisfaction yesterday. I rushed through Merri River Roses in Warrnambool and saw BDdC. That's what I've got. If you're ever in W'bool it's a great place to visit. There's a large rambling garden with heaps of old fashioned roses in very mature form. Lots of HTs as well. There are lots of perennials, many with names attached, which I find particularly interesting. The owners are friendly and helpful, and very enthusiastic about old-fashioneds. I could have spent a fortune but didn't have the car space. It was great to be able to say, "What do you have in Hybrid Musks?" and be given a choice of five. I had to settle on Felicia and Autumn Delight. Happily my daughter lives nearby so I can get back soon for some Rugosas. There are a few I can't live much longer without. The Sally Holmes I bought there last year has taken off in a very pleasing way. It's not just around the corner from many places, but if you were making a weekend of it Portland isn't too far away and the roses in the home gardens in Western Victoria are just spectacular. | 
