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Needing wise help, please

Posted by ashmeri Cent. Qld.Aust. (My Page) on
Tue, Sep 6, 05 at 19:34

Will I be able to strike this cutting of a beautiful pink Rose I saw at a friend's Mother's garden at Tweed Heads.
She is an amazing woman. 93 years of age and has a very large garden on the side of a hill all tended by herself.
The perfume of the rose is so strong .
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Marion


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Yes Marion and its so easy up here. You know I planted some cuttings of my "Mary Rose" in July when I pruned and would you believe they are sprouting leaves already. But I wont transplant them till late September as last year I took cuttings of Lovely Lady in July like I said I planted it in the ground in September and in flowered in December, things seems to grow so quick here.

Not being a expert on Roses but I think I would cut that top bit off, then to just on top of a bud all I do is dip the ends in honey as the growing hormone it works for me I have not lost one yet. I plant mine in tubes and transplant later when bigger about three months they will have heaps of roots on them. Hope this helps. Cheers...MM.


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I forgot to say what a Beautiful Rose do you know its Name...MM


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MM, I wish I did know the name, I took the picture and managed to get the four stages of the rose in it hoping someone would be able to tell us the name.
Mrs. B only knows that a friend from Toowoomba gavit it to her 40 years ago and it is always flowering.
The perfume is amazing, you can smell it from the roadway as you walk in the gate.
Thanks for the planting advise.
Marion


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  • Posted by Snodge Outer Sydney (My Page) on
    Wed, Sep 7, 05 at 3:09

What a beauty! Good luck with the cuttings.


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Hi Marion
That's a magnificent rose.I wan't one!More so if it's as fragrant as you say. Let us all know if you find out it's name.
The cutting you were given is unfortunately less than optimal material but it still may strike.Make sure you leave two or three healthy leaves on the top or your chances of striking it will be lower.The semi hard material that was removed from the top was the ideal cutting to use.Southerners seem to complain that roses are "often" hard to strike and I'm totally inexperienced with the growing conditions within their region.One thing I do know is that here in Qld most roses will strike easily on an open bench ( no humidification,foggers,plastic covers etc required) and the resulting new plants will "often" (depending on variety) develop into plants that are entirely satisfactory in the home garden.Though the rose industry is stubborn to change there has been a move towards own-root rose production for some time now.Here in Qld a number of roses have been sold commercially as own roots over recent times eg.Seduction,Love Potion,Chameleon and more recently The Toowoomba Rose (a Delbard) not to mention hordes of miniatures,patio roses ,chinas and tea roses.As yearlings many of these plants are far superior in size to their budded counterparts.
Even if your rose sulks on its own roots you could take some budwood from it and bud onto an understock (multiflora or Dr Huey).If you don't want to try it yourself just supply the budwood to a nursery or someone else who can do it for you.
Some good striking mediums are (a) sand,perlite and cocopeat(one part each)
(b)rockwool or oasis foam
(c)perlite and seived down potting mix (50/50).This is a ripper.When you seive the p.mix make sure the remaining particles are no bigger than the grade of perlite your using.
If you use two to four node cuttings from below an open or spent bloom you can expect roots to initiate in 3-4weeks(Sept.-April).You can plant out straight away or if your not in a hurry leave for a month or so but make sure you give some liquid fert. of some sort.Even without hormone your strike rate will be close to 100% on there will be no discernable difference in the resultant new plant.
Once you perfect this you can travel the country side asking for cuttings from whomever you wish (I gotta feeling you'll be a natural at this) with every expectation of being rewarded with your own new plants at home.Anne and I have heaps of new roses,originally collected as cuttings from gardens of friends,aquaintances etc.
Thrip


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  • Posted by ashmeri Cent. Qld.Aust. (My Page) on
    Wed, Sep 7, 05 at 17:45

Thanks Thrip, I have done the seived potting mix and perlite and dipped the end in honey as MM says.
Now the waiting ,looking and hoping time is here.
I will be really disappointed if it doesn't take but the bush is big so I will just send for another bit and keep on trying.

Marion


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Hi Marion
Yeah, "keep on trying"is definately the way to go. I killed plenty of cuttings before I got it right.
I've been meaning to get back to you about the propagation media advice I gave you.
When I said to add 50% perlite to the seived potmix I obviously overestimated the amount.The 50/50 mix I mentioned will work fine and some propagators actually strike their cuttings in perlite alone,however you will find that about 15/20% perlite is ample.The perlite is used to lighten the mix.A few other points to be made here are *water cuttings once or twice every day depending on weather
*shading up to 30 or 40% of the light off cuttings will speed up process but only until roots have emerged,then pot up and into full sun.Apply a slow release fertiliser immediately.
*some potting mixes have fertilisers added these days.When choosing a mix to seive down(for striking media) avoid these mixes as fertiliser can delay root development and/or kill cuttings.
*we use two inch tubes for cuttings but the large cutting in your photo would reqire a 4 inch pot or at least something larger than 2"tube.
Sorry about the stuffup earlier.I didn't realise till I woke up this morning and I just happened to be thinking about what I'd said.If you end up striking a fair few cuttings using the extra perlite means more waterings and more expense.
Muddled up Thrip


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It is a beauty isnt it. I personally have close to 800 varieties and if I was allowed to guess, I would say Bonsoir or Dreamtime.
Pete


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EIGHT HUNDRED VARIETIES?????? Now that sounds like heaven to me!

I love that pink rose. It's so big and bounteous. Reminds me of the type of roses grown in my late MIL's garden, and they were all planted in the 50s-60s.


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It could be Mrs John Laing. Very popular in the fifties.

Cassie


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