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Posted by jancol04 QLD Aust (My Page) on Fri, Aug 5, 05 at 7:39
Hi
Can anyone tell me if they have ever planted roses in a no dig garden. How did they go? I have the garden ready and it's in a western side with afternoon sun. I live in Central Queensland on the coast and my other roses in pots and in soil are doing reasonably well. I am also looking at running a drip system along the back of the bed. Any help appreciated.
Jan
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RE: Roses & no dig gardens
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| Jan, I made a "no dig" garden - about 20 x 3 metres - and just sprayed lots of round up to kill the khaki and then when it was dead, spread months worth of newspapers (most not read) and then loads of manure (much of it free from my 3 ponies) and straw cleaned out from the chook house every few weeks. A few weeks ago I planted 5 ionessis plena and now in the last week have planted 5 marie van houtte, 1 Mrs BR Cant and am about to add a gloire lyonnaise and a penelope. I have had to round up a few stray weeds that I coul dnot pull out and weeding will be a problem until these roses get big and boofy, A dear friend dug the edges of the bed and it is now looking pretty terrific. I would never do a bed any other way now. Have just bought some $19 black dripper hoses from Woolies supermarket and then I go along with my cordless and drill a large hole at each rose and that seems to work very well - you can join two or more of these hoses with the fitting for the taps and with the cordless drill holes, there are little dribbles of water onto each rose. I am doing the whole place with this system so I can water for a while and then connect up to the gravity feed of the dam (when I mend the pony-shaped hoof hole in the dam liner). Good luck! |
RE: Roses & no dig gardens
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| Thanks Kevarose I put three in about two weeks and so far so good but I have found it gets really dry in the no dig garden and have sprinkled it often. Will keep a close eye on them
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RE: Roses & no dig gardens
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- Posted by Snodge Outer Sydney (My Page) on
Sun, Aug 21, 05 at 5:35
| I think the killing the grass is the key part. I LOVE the idea of now dig and when we first moved here did the whole newspaper bit, but I wasn't very successful with it. Unfortunately, we have lovely deep soil...well unfortunately for establishing the no dig anyway...the grass roots were established 12 inches down (kikuyu). UNBELIEVABLY resilient! The most success I had was putting full bales of hay (or was it straw?) stacked together like huge bricks until they broke down. That didn't do too bad a job killing the grass, but even then, there were some deep deep roots that had to be chased down. In another spot I tried the black plastic to blanch then burn on a really hot sunny day...no good for me. These days, I find it's easier in the long run to just bite the bullet and dig the b----y grass out up front and then generously surface compost to try to make amends to the little critters the digging upsets.....I've even learned to kind of enjoy the digging...though a little goes a long long way. |
RE: Roses & no dig gardens
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I have planted roses straight into the lawn. I dug holes for the roses, and flowering cherries, and planted them, then mulched the whole area heavily with rotted sheep manure, newspaper and lucerne hay. The roses and trees did very well, and once the paper had broken down and the weeds gone, I planted siberian irises. You have to have a reasonable depth of soil to start with, but I think the roses would prefer to be in the ground, in a heavy soil, rather than above the ground in a straw/compost mix. As you have discovered, they get very dry.
Can you dig down below the no dig garden, into the soil and plant them there? They don't mind a deep mulch of straw and compost pulled right up to their stems. |
RE: Roses & no dig gardens
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Hi Snodge & Sparaxis,
Thanks for your posts, I might end up putting them into the ground. Will see how they are next week
jan |
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