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Posted by nadianadia QLD (My Page) on Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 8:09
| I saw this garden bed with rose pillars and it just looked gorgeous. I imagine they plant climbing roses and train them to grow up the pillars? I'm kind of tossing the idea around.
Has anyone tried this and what are the pros and cons of this? |
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RE: Rose pillars?
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- Posted by lozza Vic. Oz. (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 15:43
| Yes Nadia, it works well. We have an avenue of 36 10' poles rammed 2' into the ground. The avenue is 12' across, and the poles are about 12' apart down each row. At the base of each we planted rambler/climbers such as 'Seagull', 'Rambling Rector', 'New Dawn', 'Bobbie James', 'Noella Nabonnand', 'Claire Jacquier', 'Desprez a Fleurs Jaunes', 'R.laevigata', 'Cl.Iceberg', 'Kiftsgate', 'Chromatella', 'Mme.Alfred Carriere', and many others making up the numbers. Between the poles running longitudinally, there are species roses and others to fill the gaps between the poles. The canes are gathered around the pole and secured to it with ties, enabling them to cascade down from the top of the poles. Galvanised roofing nails are hammered in near the top of the pole, and the ties secured above them to prevent slippage down the pole. Each Winter, the ties are severed, the oldest canes are completely removed, the plants tidied, and resecured to the pole. For one pole, you probably ought consider a repeat-flowering rose for the purpose. Any of the Noisettes and 'New Dawn' will suit the purpose. |
RE: Rose pillars?
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- Posted by ashmeri Cent. Qld.Aust. (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 20, 06 at 15:56
Lozza,
That sounds magnificent and I was thinking of doing something, on a smaller scale, here but have no real idea of how to go about it. Could you post a couple of pictures please. Marion |
RE: Rose pillars?
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| Lozza, wow, you make it sound so possible. I was thinking arches until I saw how effective that pillars could be, even on a small scale. Your garden sounds truly wonderful and yes I would love to see a pic. I kinda got lost with the imperial measurements, that's in feet I suspect. Now I've seen the rose pillars made out of metal that are readily available but they don't look sturdy and likely to snap at the solder points - what do you suggest as something to train them up and how sturdy does that need to be? I gather you hammered up your own, but I'm not talented in that department. I have seen the simple poles used. I'm thinking ready made.If any in Bris have read this perhaps they can indicate a supplier who makes something a little more sturdy. Darn, I'll just post the pic of what I thought was nice and perhaps with your knowledge you may be able to tell me how this was done. 
I'm glad you explained the pruning to me or I would have just struggled along. Is the training of the roses as complicated as getting them to train along a wall?
I thought you would underplant them with groundcover roses...can I trouble you to also suggest an interplanting species? I'm thinking 1.5 m width beds by 5 m with 2 to 3 rose pillars. The vision is having this as a center bed with two sidelong beds of standards. Er yes, but I think I'll eventually get there...even if it takes a while. |
RE: Rose pillars?
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- Posted by lozza Vic. Oz. (My Page) on
Tue, Mar 21, 06 at 22:20
| A problem I've found with those little arches, is keeping them vertical. Depending on the cultivar used, the rose can end up as I like to say, wearing the arch, rather than the other way around. Any photos I took would just show a jungle. The object with the pole is to grow the canes vertically up the pole, and have them cascade from the top of the pole, not a dainty feature in a garden bed, but a feature in its totality. Go the small arches in your situation, I merely warn you to anchor them at least 60 cms into the ground. |
RE: Rose pillars?
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- Posted by ashmeri Cent. Qld.Aust. (My Page) on
Thu, Mar 23, 06 at 3:33
| Lozza, I don't mind jungle, wish I could grow one here. A picture in flower would be a delight to see I am sure, as the idea sounds wonderful and I would like to show it my Henry , much easier to see rather than to try and explain . Don't get me wrong, but he can plant a post safely in the ground,after building miles of fences in our past life , without is falling down.It is just the whole idea I need him to see. Marion |
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