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Posted by frannyfrip qld (My Page) on Sun, Jan 22, 06 at 19:05
| Hello everyone. Have grown Crepescule twice without success - once in heavy clay and again on sand - not ideal I know but I have grown Deprez a fleur Jaune and Devoniensis without trouble on clay if not sand. I couldn't get Crepescule to flower and was wondering if it takes longer to come to maturity than the others or needs special care. It did flower but skimpily and the flowers weren't full. It's such a beautiful climber and now I am reluctant to buy another. I do all the right things, add organic matter, mulch, feed. What am I doing wrong? |
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RE: Crepescule
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| Hi franny I have two crepscules one each side of a arch only planted barerooted in July they were both slow to start, the first flush of flowers was early september, and one of them is starting to flower again now. They are flying away after the recent rain. I dont think you are doing anything wrong as long as you put lots of organic matter into the sandy soil they should have been ok, probably need heaps more water though. I would have another go, they are supposed to be as tough as old boots and being a noisette they grow good in our climate. I leave my roses in one spot for two years and if they dont preform well then I dig them up and plant somewhere else, so far that idea is working well.... Sorry I am not much help....Cheers..MM. |
RE: Crepescule
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Hi Franny-I don't think you are doing anything wrong.
It is possible that the plants you have tried have been on the wrong rootstock for your area or that inferior budwood was used when they were grafted.
My Crepuscule is very rarely without flowers and is tough as.
She is in a position which I more often that not forget to water too.
Try it again from a reputable grower and maybe you will be third time lucky.
regards
sandie |
RE: Crepescule
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My neighbour has 2 exquisite Crepescules behind her front fence but facing the sun. They are about 8 feet high and flower in spring and are just getting well into their second flush for the season. I am sure she doesn't water them - I think Cimmaron's advice is very probably the cause. I wonder if you could trace where the roses actually originated from? It would be interesting to hear whether they did come from say, South Aust which apparently a lot of limestone so they use a particular rootstock (so my neighbour tells me and she seems to be a rose expert).
Janine, Melbourne. |
RE: Crepescule & Jaune Desprez
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| Hi Frannyfrip. I would love to hear how your Jaunes Desprez is growing - I am thinking of getting this climber. How long have you had it planted? I want to grow one up a thick-barked gum tree. What size are the flowers? I know it's a noisette so I suppose they're not very big. Janine, Melbourne |
RE: Crepescule
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Janine, I apologise, I wasn't invited, but I can warmly recommend Jaune Desprez. It is one of the best Noisettes and one of the best climbing roses ever. In just 3 months, it grew 6 ft in my frontyard (it was 2ft tall when I bought her -- now two canes out of 5 are 8ft tall and I'm spreading them on a wire). Flowers are smallish, 5-6 cm in diameter, but the scent is unique. Just give it water and nice treatment of manure and slow release fertiliser.
- Tom |
RE: Crepescule
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I planted 3 crepuscule here in winter 2005. The 2 climbers are in fairly heavy clay loam, and are currently flowering, and the 6ft weeping standard has put on good growth and had a small flush of bloom. It is planted in a mix of compost, soil, sand and rotted cow manure.
I would suspect that it is either the root stock or the climate that is causing your problem.
Cheers, Jan |
RE: Crepescule
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Hi everyone,
Never thought of root stock problems Cimmaron but one came from Vic. I think the other came from a nursery at Mt Tamborine and they grow beautiful roses up there. I agree with Tom, Janine. Mine didn't get much TLC but it flowered all the time. I would grow it again for its winter flowers which are magical - nothing like those of summer. In fact I thought someone had swapped roses when I first saw them. The rose was much larger and full, petals were almost transparent in soft lemon and it was like the rose had dressed up for a ball. I wasn't so impressed with the scent but that is variable in different climates and conditions. My only disappointment was that our winter here comes and goes in spurts and I am sure I missed seeing it at its best. |
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