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Pruning roses in a hot climate

Posted by frannyfrip qld (My Page) on
Sun, Jan 29, 06 at 17:10

I am always stumped about when to prune my roses, how much and even if I should prune. I tend to let them go dormant through our long hot summer and then give them a tidy-up prune and a good feed early March so they flower for me through the winter. We only get an occasional frost so I don't have to worry. I can't see the point in getting blooms only to watch the sun scorch them.

Everyone else seems to let their roses flower on through summer and wonder if this exhausts the plant. How long can you expect a rose to last in a hot climate like ours?


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As most of my roses are standards there is no way I could leave them as such. Every morning I go out and cut most of the buds off with a long stem, and if say for instance there is a cluster on it when that has finished flowering I cut that back a bit too. Sure it grows new shoots and I do realise that it wont last as long as the roses I grew in Melbourne but so be it that Nature here.

I have also been told to feed them half the amount at six weeks intervals rather than a big feed in late summer so thats what I do, I also give them a watering with seasol after a good shower of rain. The flowers on mine dont get as scorched now as I grew the new ones last season where they would get afternoon shade, and they are so much better.

I still get Black Spot after the rains but the roses that I have in my house all summer make it well worth the extra pruning and TLC they get, maybe others will say I am doing it wrong but it works for me here in Queensland and I hate people from other States trying to tell me how to grow roses here when they have never tried. Especially when they are all having the same problem with scorched flowers. Keep them well watered and you do what you think is best. Cheers..MM.

PS.. The park down the road has lots of roses in flower, so the council must think it is OK too.


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YOu must be more dedicated to your roses than I am mistymorn. I tend to lose enthusiasm through the summer! If I had a lovely tree canopy to make the garden cooler and more pleasant it might be different.
I have persevered with them through summer before but found it wasn't worth the effort. The noisettes and teas are fine, and Graham Thomas blooms his heart out and each bloom perfect. The HTs are in part shade though and they still lose their blooms after a day. And with blackspot and all the rest I can't see the point. The ground is just so hot and we can't water as much now either to keep it cooler for them.
I was interested in the Seasol bit. I use it but only when they look as if they need a tonic.
Do you use milk? I do all the time and wouldn't use anything else. It works better than any chemical I have used and what could cheaper.
Perhaps I am growing the wrong ones. Can you suggest any low maintenance roses ?!!! I am picky though. I have to love it.

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Hi Frannyfrip....I do realise it is very hard to grow roses here in the Summer and the flowers do not last long on the bushes that is why I cut them off very early every morning when they are there. You have got the right roses, last season I bought what hubby and I liked rather than what was good for this climate.. Must say though that my best performer from my new ones is Seduction, it is nearly always in flower although the flowers dont have the darker pink like they did in the Spring.

I find that all the roses lose their colour as the Spring turns into Summer expecially the darker ones, red like Camp David and La Sevillana which turn pink with white spripes it is one of my older roses. About the Seasol, well I was told to liquid feed after a good shower of rain and as I only has Seasol and its mate Power feed here I put them into the watering can this is the first time I have used it as it is the first time we have any decent rain. It has not done them any harm, but I will say I water mine a lot as most are in raised garden beds, they have a very thick layer of Sugar Cane mulch on them as well. I am not looking forward to the bucket watering in March so I hope we get some rain for the catchment areas. I spray mine with Triforine when I remember at present I have just sprayed for bud crub, they were terrible . No I do not use milk I did try it once but was not happy with the results maybe I used the wrong ratio how much milk per water do you use.. I try not to used chemicals as I have so many little frogs and bearded dragons on the block but after trying to pick all these little grubs of every day I took the easy way out. Sorry I am not much help. Cheers..MM.


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I try not to use any chemicals because we have a family of blue tongue in residence, not to mention frogs and so on.
I never measure the milk and some say not to use full cream but I have never noticed it make a difference. I use it on all my plants and it works particularly well with mildew of any kind. Cures even plants I would once have pulled out in disgust. I usually empty out the last of the milk into a small spray bottle and top it up. Take it with me when I am cutting a rose for the house or pruning. Spray it on all cuts. What I don't use one day I use the next. It will wash off of course so if you use a sprinkler or if it rains you've wasted your time.

I pick off the caterpillars which love Just Joey and my mandevilla. I have yet to test drive milk on thrips or other insects - I would be surprised if it worked. I think its a mildew only cure but there's no harm in trying.

I use dry horse manure and old hay for mulch - scrounge it out of anybody's hay shed that will let me. Wish I could afford cane mulch.

Hope things don't get so bad you have to use a bucket. It must rain sometime soon surely.

I am going to find Seduction and see if it can seduce me. Have you tried the old red Crimson Glory - haven't noticed it fading. It's prickly and the flower stalks are weak but its flower is perfect.

Had trouble with the log on page this time. Had to do it 3 times - on dial-up!!


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MM-you have it exactly right-your garden and your choice.
It comes down to what works for you.
Each of us have a different need from our roses and we work towards acheiving that need.
What works for one person will not necessarily work for another.
In most cases and with most things-there is not a right way or wrong way to do it-just DIFFERENT ways.
Celebrate the differences.
regards
sandie


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Frannyfrip I am not having any troubles logging on, I am on Broadband and that may be making a difference. I try and pick off all the tiny bud grubs till they got to plague proportions then I gave up I would have thought with all the birds on this block I would not have as many must say your Crimson Glory sounds good I looked it up on my rose book but its best I don't add any more to my very meager collection as I find them quite enough at present, but Thank you I will keep it in mind...

Hi Sandie your advice and Mary's, Dees and Michelle's about tying and pruning my climbing roses on the Arch was invaluable they are coming along great and with another huge downpour just after doing that its time to do it again.. And if you have never grown roses up here you would be shocked at how hard it is, especially if you had lived down south for most of your life. I take advice off anyone, you are never too old to learn more, but when I am told that I don't water my roses enough by someone that lives down south, when I water them deeply every second day how would you feel.. And you are so right we do have to do things different here and I wish that person would remember that, and I am celebrating the difference Sandie with vases of roses the ones I was told by that person would not grow in the shade under the tall gum trees ...Cheers..MM.


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If my roses have been badly affected by the heat I will prune a bit more and that works for me. Iused to spray regularly for everything but it really annoyed me when I walked past gardens where roses are obviously neglected to see healthy disease free roses flourishing. I have cut back my spraying dramatically this rose season and will only spray if things get out of hand and this is working for me. I have learnt that roses are one of the most forgiving plants around.


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Hi,
I know I'm not in Qld, but have the same black spot problems here. I use Triforine about once a month with 1ml wettasoil mixed in per litre. It is supposed to make the Triforine stick better. Works for me.
Regards
Julia


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I also do a spot of trimming each morning, but yesterday went to my garden at 5am and dead-headed and took in a vase of nice blooms. At 6 am I looked out the window only to see my daughter's 2 ponies eating every last bud. I guess I won't have to worry for a few days.
Regards
Julia


 
 

 

 


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