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| hello...
first time poster, long time reader... i recently went up to brisbane. whilst there, i decided to take a few cuttings from the local frangipanis, and post them back to myself here to my melbourne address. they arrived today (all ten cuttings...) and some looked a bit limp and shrivelled... i checked with australia post and both Department of Primary Industries (vic and qld), and it is fine to send frangipani cuttings by mail from qld to vic... now, my questions: when would be a good time to plant these cuttings? why are some cuttings shrivelled-looking? is this a sign on drying out? how long will these cuttings keep? i understand that the best time to plant a cutting is late winter /early spring. would it matter if i planted them now? do the cuttings need more time to dry? i took the cuttings (when in brisbane...) about a day or so before i posted them. i had no more time (as it was new years and the post office would be closed the day of my departure...), and i'm worried that all that time in the enclosed box perhaps caused the cuttings to sweat and even rot... the cuttings are a mixture of pink and rose and red coloured frangipani varieties...any help would be greatly appreciated... muzz... |
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| g'day muzz, sounds like they are just drying out that's not bad necessarily as usually when you take cuttings they should be left to dry a couple or weeks or so before planting. i would plant them out now and being in melbourne i would suggest a good warm northerly aspect for the winter months. might also be an idea to give some though to potting them for now as winter realy isn't that far away, so at least then you can keep them in a warmer position and then plant out early summer next season. len |
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| Hi Muzz and many welcomes. Yes I agree with what Lens wrote, as they are only cuttings do pot them up, you can always plant them in the Garden near a north facing wall at the end of this year. I planted a Frangipani bought in a pot, when I lived in the north eastern suburbs of melb in a corner of the house which was very sheltered and it didn't survive. So do pamper it with warmth, and do not water too much, as the stem will rot. Happy Gardening. MM. |
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| hello... first of all, thank you both for your replies. much appreciated... now len, do you suggest that i leave the cuttings outside during winter, or the potted cuttings outside? i was actually planning on bringing the cuttings inside, but i guess i will be willing to try anything. it gets so cold here overnight in melbourne, especially during june and july... mistymorn, would you recommend, perhaps, planting the cuttings as soon as possible? it doesn't seem like the wounds have healed or anything...it's quite a complicated business this frangipani-cutting posting and transferring... |
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| g'day muzz, if you are opting for the potting then put them in a warm sheltered spot for the winter preffereably where they will get some sun, they will lose any leaves they grow, so at this time don't over water. now even if you plant out next summer you have to try and get enough growth before the next winter so you may ahve to protect the plants from the cold ie.,. heavily mulch to keep the soil warm will help if you get frosts maybe make shelters over them. could be an advantage to leave them potted for a few or so seasons until they are growing very strongly. generally it is best to let cuttings dry for around 2 weeks or so they are very hardy, when i have taken cutting i usually stand them cut end down leaning on a wall or garden edge and where they get good morning sun. so your cuttings may need more drying time yet, but i've seen small branches just dropped into the garden strike when they looked all but totally dehydrated. len |
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| No dont plant them yet let them dry out properly. Dont put them in the Garden, Melbourne is having a very cold summer this year ( Brissie daughter just came home yesterday after four weeks there loaded up with hang on sheepskin boots name change ) Living in Melbourne for 45 years and in a very cold spot near the Lower Plenty River there were lots of things I could not keep alive, you may live in a warmer suburb. There are quite a posts about growing frangapani in Vic I will see if I can find one and link it.....MM |
Here is a link that might be useful: Growing frangipani
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| Plenty to read on that top one muzz, and now this link below is the best one on Plumeria (Frangipani) Happy Gardening we will be looking forward to the pics next year on the Oz Gallery....MM. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Plumeria 101
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| wow...thanks for that link. i'll give it a good reading... we've had a pityful summer, true. barely breaking 25 degrees. nothing short of lacklustre, but anyway... i posted the same post on the american aspect of this site, under the 'plumeria' section, and a guy posted back this clever technique which shows if your frangipani cutting is on the way out. he explains that if you prick the cutting down at the bottom, near the 'cut', it should bleed white sap. if it doesn't keep pricking all the way up the cutting until you find a spot where it bleeds. here is where you re-cut the cutting, and allow it do dry out again...i have two cuttings that are kinda squishy when i squeeze them, and i'm pretty much bracing myself for the worst. these cuttings however bleed down the bottom of the cutting. they don't bleed all that viscously, but they bleed. i was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for a 'resurrection', if possible... heh...i have been taking photos of the frangis' growing progress. i doubt they would make anything other than 'quaint' reading/viewing matter, as they are really small and nothing too special looking. i guess they could serve as "you can grow frangipanis in melbourne too!" confirmation photos or something...heh. thanks for the tips, mm... |
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| muzz you know you can buy potted Frangipani in Melb. I bought one at a Target store many years ago have a look in all the stores. I just answered a post from someone in Melb wanting to know how much to water them, you can always e-mail them by clicking on there home page, you could ask her where she bought it. Its on the Oz Gallery forum I will link it for you. Maybe you should cut the squishy bit off and let it dry for about two weeks, where are you drying it a concrete path would be ideal, my hubby built me a potting bench so I leave it on that( no concrete here) I was thinking too that it may take a lot longer to dry it out because of the cooler weather anyway have a go. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Frangipani
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| Sorry about that link I left a / out will try again Got it OK this time.....MM. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Frangipani
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| misty, i've bought a few pre-potted frangis already. independant nurseries and department stores are great for that, however the range is SOOO limited, you're lucky to find anything other than the token white-yellow ones. even the pink/purple ones are a rare find. besides, i felt that ones i sampled in brisbane are WAY prettier... my girlfriend grew up in brisbane, and she's gonna be back there again in a few months. misty, would frangis be flowering around late feb early march? because i've asked her to bring back some on the plane, if she can. that way they don't suffocate in a box or anything like that. i reckon that is what dehydrated them. i was in and around the manly/wynnum area of brisbane, and the frangis there are so beautiful. such a beautiful range of colours and hues. pink with apricot ears. purple with red. absolutely delightful they were...as much as i hate the temparature element of the tropics, i could put up with it for the beautiful flowers and fruit it bears... |
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| Muzz I just lookd up my Tropical and sub tropical Gardening book and it states that they flower from November to May, but May can get pretty cold here where I live during the night just looked up last years diary most nights are 12 degs and that too cold for them to flower you see they drop there leaves when the temp drops my lastest pic taken last year were in late Feb so they could be flowering then. Dont know about your cutting rooting though it may be a bit too cold down there then, but anything is worth a try Good luck with them anyway......MM. |
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| Take heart: there are many frangipanis growing in Melb. Only last week, as I travelled in inner Melb on a tram between Chapel St and St Kilda Rd (the no. 6 or 8 tram, I think), I passed three houses (either adjoining or separated only by one other house) with frangipanis growing in the ground in the front garden, right up against the house. The largest was about 2m high and 1m wide--I reckon the neighbours probably shared cuttings! I suspect the common yellow-white form is most popular here simply because it's the hardiest, although my mother has a pot full of year-old coloured (ie shades of pink plus a rainbow-coloured one) frangies in her outer-Melb garden that I bought (unrooted) down from Bris last Christmas. So don't give up! |
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