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ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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Posted by Grant_fnq QLD Aust (My Page) on Mon, Nov 8, 04 at 6:17
| Can anyone identify this rainforest tree. My first guess is Acronychia acidula but I am by no means confident.
Grant |
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RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| Oh what a delight, a native NQLD rainforest plant!!!! Grant Acronychia acidula has an indehiscent fruit and simple leaves it is a Rutaceae, what you have here is a capsule and compound leaves, and is a Sapindaceae. it looks to be Toechima daemelianum, where did you find it, soil type and altitude please.
or either could be Rhysotoechia robertsonii, Toechima daemelianum or T.erythrocarpum. If you found it on the tablelands on basalt it is likley to be either Toe ery or Rhy roberts. and if you found it below 300m it is Toe dae. Cheers from Kris |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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Thanks Kris,
Now that I know what "indehiscent" means I can see what you mean. My fruit is definitely not indehiscent.
I first saw this tree growing in the verge of a very large garden of a friend at Freshwater. She thought it may have been planted as part of their extensive landscaping - hence my wild guess Acronychia acidula. I realise that this tree is only found at high elevation but I thought it was not beyond the realms of possibility that the landscape architect had used a Tableland tree. However, this morning I saw another one growing in the bank of a creek at Bayview Heights, so I reckon your ID of Toechima daemelianum is probably close to the mark. I have found photos of T. erythrocarpum and T. dasyrrhache in my limited reference library, but, so far, no T. daemelianum, so I will have to bow to your greater knowledge. I have planted out several dozen seeds - do you know if they are easy to germinate?
Grant |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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Grant,
No bowing required.
Soak the seeds over night, they will germinate in about 2 weeks in this weather.
I just planted some Cupaniopsis diploglottoides seeds and they took no more than 2 weeks to show their heads. There are heaps of Toechima daemelianum along the edge of the highway on the western side as your approaching Forest Gardens estate from the south side. Also some on the side of the road (left side) as you are going up Stoney creek road at Kamerunga, whilst you still have the Barron River in view on your right. There is a photo of Toe dae in Yurugas book if I remember right Cheers from Kris |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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Grant
this also has some resemblance to a Harpulia spp especially the seed capsule and the leaf form. may also be worth checking |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| Harpullia have soft capsules with two ovules per locule and are often red.The capsules are also shaped like a harp. This one has one seed per locule - so its in the Cupania clade, the Harpullia are more closely related to Dodonaea, the Hop bush.
Kris |
RE: ID more N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| Thanks for the help, Kerrod, but I reckon Kris is right it is not Harpullia, however, what do you think about this one. 
The closest picture I can find is Harpullia hillii, but it, apparently, is not found north of Ayr. This photo was taken on a creek bank in Cairns. The seed pods, when opened, contain an attractive shiny, crimson seed almost rectangular in shape and about 20mm long. And, I guess while we are on the scent of NQ rainforest trees, how about this one, found on the edge of a creek at Mossman. I am not real confident about this one being a native. It may have escaped from a farmhouse garden upstream. I actually stopped at this site to get some pictures of Mat Rush (Lomandra hystrix) that was growing thickly in the creek bed. The scent was overwhelming. But I was distracted by this tree. It was about 10m tall and its roots were almost in the water. I have my suspicions but I am hesitant to make a silly guess. 
Grant |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| Top one is, Myristica globosa ssp. muelleri Bottom one try, Ormosia ormondii Kris |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| Thank once again, Kris. Now that I have looked up my references I am sure you are correct in both cases. The M. globosa, I see, is the Native Nutneg favoured by the Pied Imperial Pigeons. I have several seed planted and am looking forward to germination. |
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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| I am betting on Toechima daemelianum, the fruit and leaves are a good match. What you need is a copy of "Australian Tropical Plants" CD Rom. Garry |
Here is a link that might be useful: Rainforest Magic
RE: ID N. Queensland rainforest tree
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Garry,
you gave yourself away straight up!!
Hope you are well.
Im heading back down south after having finishing my BSc.
Ill call you again soon.
From Kris |
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