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Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

Posted by sirjess 3a (My Page) on
Tue, Sep 16, 08 at 18:09

Hello,

Last year someone I knew went to Australia picked some Kangaroo Apple's and brought back the seeds to Canada. I planted some and now have a very nice plant with lots of fruit hanging on it. I have read that it is only edible when it is VERY ripe and am a bit scared to try it.

I am posting here so that hopfully someone who has actually eaten a Kangaroo Apple fruit can tell me what to do because no one in Canada has ever seen it before. It will soon be freezing here and the plant will die, I will most likely bring the plant in so that the fruit can ripen some more......?

My plant looks like the one at this website http://museumvictoria.com.au/forest/plants/apple.html

Thank you for any help =)


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

First of all I have to say that your friend was very irresponsible to breach Canada's quarentine regulations by bringing seeds in from Australia illegally. Quarentine restrictions are there for good reason even if you do not understand them.

Secondly I would like to point out that the various Aus native Solanum species are extremely aggressive colonisers and can be quite invasive even in their natural range. Solanum aviculare is no exception.

So what you and your friend have almost certainly done is introduce and Australian environmental weed into Canada. Perhaps you should google "environmental weed" and learn about the devestation that these do to ecosystems across the globe.

Most particularly those that produce edible fruit that can be distributed in the bird droppings hundreds of kilometres from the initial infestation. And which you will have little chance of preventing it from spreading.

I think the right thing for you to do would be to destroy your Kangaroo Apple, dispose of it in land fill and choose a more appropriate and non-invasive Australian native plant.


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

Thank you for the environmental consern Greg. I am fairly certain the -40deg C winters will kill any chance of this plant taking hold in the wild. It is no different then all the thousands of annual flower seeds that can be bought in stores, and all the tropical plants that can be bought.


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

Sorry to chew your ar$e out in this forum but some one has to draw people's attention to these issues. As unaware of them as you may be.

It doesn't matter what everyone else does, it only matters what you do! And you certainly don't have to add your contribution to the environmental problems in your country do you?

These sort of situations are an environmental line in the sand for individuals like yourself. Your authorities can do only so much and the rest must be up to individuals behaving in an environmentally responsible manor.

As for the -40 degree celsius winters.

Do you have a degree in ecology or botany that gives you the expertise to reliably assess whether or not an exotic species has the potential to be invasive in between your cold winters? I thought not.

Seeds can survive extraordinarily hostile conditions, expecially the seeds of many of our native species.


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

It's possible to eat them, but not very sensible. They contain an alkaloid which was used by aborigines as a contraceptive - and the way it works is by causing an abortion. For non-pregnant women, this probably means that it disrupts the menstrual cycle, causing an extra period of bleeding. I have no idea how much needs to be eaten to cause this effect, but it may vary according to the season, ripeness of the fruit, etc.
I add my support to Greg's comments. Doesn't Canada have some interesting native plants of its own?
Trish


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

  • Posted by riku Z3 Canada (My Page) on
    Thu, Mar 25, 10 at 23:34

I was able to buy one at an Alberta nursery - which to me implies it is legitimate and cleared for import - but it and the seeds do not survive winter in zone 3a. However if it made it to Vancouver Island I have very little doubt about whether it would thrive in zones 6 to 8.


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

I just received seeds that I purchased on Ebay from California and received two gift packets of seeds with them. One is the kangaroo apple. As a retired border guard supervisor on the northern border with a passion for preventing the invasion of prohibited items. These seeds will be destroyed here in zone 5b.

I agree that it is unfortunate that laws governing the importation and exportation of agricultural items are needed but the lay person does not understand the complexities of the agricultural world and the problems created with all good intentions.

An example would be the importation of citrus from Canada into the United States in lunches for those working in the U.S. and meals for the travelers through the U.S. Because import standards are extremely strict, it prevents those citrus imported into Canada from countries other than the U.S., to get into the U.S.

Canadian import standards are not as strict and unfortunately citrus from non U.S. counties at times are contaminated with eggs, larvae, and adult "bugs" that would devastate the American Citrus Industry in California, Arizona, and Florida.

In fact even Florida citrus can not be sold in California and vice versa. Each has a unique pest contamination that the other State does not want introduced in theirs adding to an already major problem, ie. Medierranean White Fruit Fly. Enough said.

Have a great day everyone only double for you personally.
Trooper_jay


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

Let me add my two cents worth to the debate. My local council puts out a guide of environmental weeds to our area. Many of the plants that are on that list are commercially available in local nurseries. When most of us think of weeds, we don't think of our favourite plants, but some of them are.

I have a kangaroo apple in my garden. It germinated from seed dispersed by wind or bird droppings. It definitely has the ability to be invasive.

Having lived in Canada for all of my youth, I would agree that the chances of kangaroo apple or its seed surviving a Canadian winter are slim. I do agree though that the average person doesn't know enough about quarantine to be making decisions about whether it's safe to sow exotic seeds in their local area.

Don't be fooled into thinking that a plant that is sold in an area has all the approvals. Sometimes it takes a while for enforcement to catch up with legislation.

Cheers,
GW


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

sirjess, I hope you enjoy your Kangaroo Apple. I have eaten, quite tart, a real tomato is better, but nice for a change


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

Hey guys, just a quick note. The Kangaroo Apple is a colonising plant, so it grows quickly and in large numbers and provides a habitat for the establishment of other more permanent trees.

I have been doing a little research on the plant as I have a huge amount of it growing on my 52 acres. Never seen it as prolific but as we were affected by the Black Saturday bushfires of 2009 it has sprung up.

Interesting to see if come up, but don't think I will be tempted to eat it.


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We have a Kangaroo apple in our front garden. it's only been there a year but it already has another plant growing 5m away and I agree with greg about the envirometal problems


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RE: Kangaroo Apple (Solanum aviculare)

I realise this is quite an old post but thought it was interesting, just like jon, i too was directly affect by black saturday, we always had one kangaroo apple in the next door property (we use to have a feral goat that was tamed) and they were never a problem for us, but since the fires we have a few popping up in unwanted places, i too would never be game to eat them, and am considering to get another goat (a nice dairy type breed) as we also unfortunately have a lot of black berries evey where, which we have not had the time to get on top off. Another thing i want to mention is that where we live we get very heavy frosts and i have even seen kangaroo apples survive where it snows, and like any plant it will adapt much better where it does not belong! Birds love to eat the fruits and just like black berries they can spread them far and wide.


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