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Propagating Alyogyne
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Posted by justcorreas Australia (My Page) on Mon, Jul 17, 06 at 5:49
| Does anyone on the forum propagate Alyogyne's by any chance, as I'm after some info on their strike rates etc. I have put a couple of cuttings in the hothouse today in the hope of getting them to strike.
I can't see them being too hard to strike but interested in other members opinions. |
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RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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I have had no problems striking A. heugelii from cuttings in Brisbane. I'm not sure where you are but with a hot house you should do OK. Tony |
RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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| Strike fine for me in melbourne. I've even struck them directly in the ground. |
RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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| Thanks Tony & Nathan - I'm s/e of Melbourne and thought they'd be O.K. in the hothouse. I've dipped in some IBA which won't hurt them. Thanks again. |
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| or honey :) I'm rather dubious of IBA and IPA for cuttings, my own experiment, with 40 cuttings of various species with and without fresh commercial rooting hormone found no statistical significance. On the other hand, weekly watering with seaweed and charlie carp was markedly better, with 50% strike rate within 3 months, compared to 50% dead within three months. I haven't tried honey properly, perhaps that's a project for this year. My personal feeling about cuttings is that your main aim is to keep the plant alive long enough for it to realise it should grow roots. This means regular water, complete drying above ground level, regular foliar feeding and optimum growing conditions. vitamin B is probably helpful for this too. |
RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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In some cases the use of a plant hormone isn't warranted as some plants eg. Correa will strike "in a lot of cases", just in the ground. But using it doesn't have any nasty effects on the cutting as such. I use IBA 3000 ppm in talc and get very good strike rates on my correa's, but a lot has to do with the propagation mix, available warmth, water, temperature fluctuations, luck etc. During spring/summer when temperatures are above 20c I use a misting system, as cuttings need to have a warm root system compared to the foliage which needs to be kept moist/cooler. When all these factors come together you get roots and hormones do not neccessary mean you get good strike rates. I've currently got hundreds of cuttings in my hothouse, one cutting per 2" tube, all dipped in IBA 3000 and from this total I expect to get over 90% strike rate. What works for one person, may not work for another. As for honey "It's good on toast" |
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| My point was that I found no measurable advantage to using IBA or IPA. Using it thus would seem illogical/expensive/time consuming. Perhaps you would get very good strike rates without using the powder? I have thousands of cuttings too, and generally for commercially available species get high 90s% strike rate. You say you use 2" tubes, do you mean forestry tubes? I switched a few years back to 1" clear polystyrene thumb pots, as I've found that struck plants do just as well in the ground in that size, they give me 4 times the plant density and being clear it is a simple matter to see the root development. They are also very cheap (3c each I think I paid), and you can crush them up and use them in potting mix when they break. My question is 'what do you do with all your cuttings?'. And honey is good in Chai. |
RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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| In the long run, I believe some plant varieties do benefit from hormone treatments, as there are some that are very difficuly to get roots on. As for me I use what I know works for me in my situation. I use ordinary 2" tubes (not native/forestry) and the cutting is placed individually in each to stop any root disturbance. What do I do with all my cuttings? - I have a project in mind for later in the year - If it doesn't pan out, then there'll be a plant sale come Spring. :-) |
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| Hi Nathan - lost my old user ID and been busy May I ask where you get the 1" clear polystyrene thumb pots and do you have a pic ? PS - Tony from Sydney who sent you some grass seed - how is it going ? |
RE: Propagating Alyogyne
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| They were made by 'reko', who don't seem to exist any more; however garden city plastics still make them: http://www.gardencityplastics.com/tubes.htm look at the "Crack Pot Liner - Brittle - Reko Code: TCRACKB Volume: 93mls Pack Size: 1,344 Available in Clear Plastic to enable root inspection" I get the clear ones. They make a lovely 'crunch' when you stand on them, just don't do it in bare feet... On this page you can see the matching tray of 40. http://www.gardencityplastics.com/cell.htm grass seed is still in its envelop I'm afraid, I need to move all my current stock on so I can start a new batch. |
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