Jerryngeorgia: I haven't responded before now as I was trying to figure out what you have to trade. I looked at your other post about having "red pine cone ginger tublers, different varigated colored canna lily bulbs, and umbrella papius," and have been trying to research what the ginger and papius is. These are not normally found here. First, what do you have to trade? What are umbrella papius? Do you mean Papayas? Let me know so we can trade. You may want to create a trade list on your member's page to let us know what you want and have to trade. Happy Gardening! Mid tn mama

I grow lots of salvias in with my roses. I tend to use drought tolerant ones, and pair them with roses that do well low water as well. So I have multiple California natives , such as the gorgeous Salvia 'Celestial Blue' (not thirsty but tolerates garden water as well)--this one blooms like crazy for months (not all year though) and does need to be cut back. I like this one so much I have 5 more on order. One you might like Ingrid is Saliva greggii 'Teresa'. It's a small, bushy mound of green, covered in cool pale pink flowers off and on (more on than off) most of the year. Doesn't need to be cut back. Mine is still young but it seems happy at about 2 feet tall. I have it bordered by roses that like the same amount of water it does--the hybrid musk Omi Oswald, Rose de Rescht, Comtesse O'Gorman, and Rosa canina Laxa. Mine came from one of my favorite sage sources, Flowers by the Sea. Another one I really like is Salvia namaensis. It is a South African native. Thrives in really hot conditions with very little water and no fertilizer in my garden. I have it paired with Wild Edric who seems to have the same preferences. S. namaensis has beautiful pale/mid blue flowers and a very long blooming season. Doesn't need cutting back either. Mine is around 1 1/2 feet tall and spreading in habit. Leaves are kind of ruffled (unusual for a sage) and a really pretty mid green. I just bought another one which should arrive in the mail this week. Melissa Here is a link that might be useful: Salvia greggii 'Teresa'

MauveGirl8 -- I plan to stay here for a few years. I haven't even yet applied to school, and the program I'm intending to complete is 5-6 years. My next move will be way south -- Florida. As such, there are a lot of things I have that won't work there, so I wouldn't take them with me. And in any case, I'm not going to dig anything out. If I want to "bring any with me" it will be via rooted cuttings. And before I go, I intend to share some other rooted cuttings with friends -- and my landlord. He and his wife will be building a new home on empty land in the near future, and I said I'd be happy to share anything he'd like for his new yard. Certainly I'll be bringing along my "pot pet collection", and cuttings of anything appropriate for Florida that I got from Vintage Gardens that isn't available elsewhere. And by that time, I'll also make an announcement here for anyone interested in "hard to find" things I nabbed for this garden. For example, the Hybrid China 'Nouveau Monde' from VG doesn't seem to be available anywhere else. I'm using it as a climber against a raised back deck railing. The few flowers it had when it arrived were very fragrant. I posted two pics of it on HelpMeFind from when I first repotted it. Since then, it has grown quite vigorously -- one cane trained horizontally against the railing is easily 10' long from the ground. :-) ~Christopher

No, they haven't layered, but seem to seed themselves a little. I can take some photos for you and some measurements if you like. I have greggiis, mirophylla, Marachino Cherry, leucantha, chamaedryoides, Forsskal's Sage, Indago Spires, involucrata -- maybe, and whatever this unknown one is. They were all put in the fall of 1997. When I designed these gardens I knew that as I got older I wouldn't be able to do all the intensive gardening of the past. So I planned for short-lived perennials to grow near the small shrubs so that when the shrubs got huge the perennials would be gone. HAH! Nothing has died. I've had to pull-out every Salvia that has gotten buried in the Manzanita branches... and they still insist on surviving under all that growth.