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Persimmon persistence
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Posted by paul135 WA Perth (My Page) on Wed, Nov 2, 05 at 4:43
| G'day Gardeners,
I'm keen on persimmons so have planted 3 types in the backyard.
One the the varieties - Fuyu - states it is a "type A". Since buying
Fuyu I have noticed some nurseries selling Fuyu type B.
Does anyone know the difference?
This is its third season in the ground and still no flowers. The other
two varieties (Nightingale and Tanaenashi) cant stop flowering and I
have to de-bud the poor little saplings to save their lives otherwise
they would put all their energy into making fruit and then kark-it.
Will my Fuyu A flower?
Thanks,
Paul |
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RE: Persimmon persistence
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| Maybe it takes several years for the Fuyu to reach flowering stage. Just a thought. |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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Just watched the Food Lovers' Guide to Australia (SBS) tonight and they said it takes many years till the trees really give you tons of fruit. (The person's grandfather had planted them 20 years ago, and they really started taking off about 5 years ago. That's long-term planning!)
But when they take off they can give you 450 kilos or so per tree! Sorry, not much help with your original question really. Just out of curiosity, where did you get your trees from? |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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| Hi Spatz, I also watched Food Lovers' Guide to Australia last night. I might be able to eat 450kg : ). I enjoy persimmons - especially the astringent types. These are more and more difficult to find in the fruit shops. 5-8 years ago astringents dominated the market. I bought the persimmons from local nurseries: Fuyu from Waldecks, Nightingale from Colour Patch and the Tanenashi (?can't remember). I do remember it was difficult getting anything other than Fuyu! I was particularly after Flat Seedless (which may also be knowns as Hirotanenashi) and Suruga but these eluded me. Being in the West makes it harder to get stock from the Eastern States. When I was searching for persimmons a few years back it was the time of the drought in the east and this (I was told) caused a reduction in available stock and varieties. This is how I ended up with the varieties I have. Thanks for your interest, Paul |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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Paul, I have a Fuyu and 1- It will fruit on it's own, Cross polination is beneficial for any fruit but 1 tree will produce plenty of fruit for the home garden.
2- It must be close to producing it's first fruit, a lot of variables involved, like how it was planted, type of soil, nutrition, water, sun/heat etc. Mine produced 2-3 fruit in it's third year so generally I would say yours is probably on the vinegar stroke.
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RE: Persimmon persistence
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| Thanks Wicky, This is its third year in my patch. Fingers crossed for next year then! Paul |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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| I planted my persimmons 15 years ago...took 7 years and eventually I began spraying them with potash ("Bass" liquid potash)and feeding them up...spray weekly over now and summer for next year and fortnightly or monthly next year as the leaves appear and over summer..it worked so every year I have huge crops of fuyu and so delicious!!!!!!!! but watch the birds they are greedy and can pick at the lot |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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- Posted by finbar Central Italy (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 11, 05 at 7:28
No idea how old this one is, but it's about a hundred yards from my vegie patch and looks mighty pretty in its Italian autumnal mode:   |
RE: Persimmon persistence
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| Dear Gardeners, Thanks for the pictures and the potash suggestion. I'll give Fuyu a bit more "loving" with some a high potash fertillizer. I'm just surprised the other two persimmon have set fruit but Fuyu hasn't. Paul |
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