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Baby Photos 1/2005

Posted by Mark_Wendy (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 23, 05 at 20:42

Hi Gang,

I've been suffering tomato withdrawal symptoms for sometime now.
Not much on our favorite subject has been posted here, so I have had to make do with regular reading of the 'Up Over' tommie forum, which has helped.
Finally I couldn't take it anymore....sowed my first lot of seeds 16 July, second lot 31 July and final lot 22 August.
My 2005 growout list:
Amana Orange
Anna Russian
Aunt Ruby’s German Green
Australian Pink (my contribution to Ray's Aussie tom growout)
Black From Tula
Black Krim
Box Car Willie
Brandywine Sudduth’s Strain
Burracker’s Favorite
Cherokee Chocolate
Cherokee Green
Ckerokee Purple
Earl’s Faux
Eckert Polish
Fritsche
Hawaiian Pineapple
Hillbilly
Jaunne Negib
Little Lucky
Lime Green Salad
Livingstone’s Stone
Lucky Cross
Marianna’s Peace
Paragon
Regina’s Yellow
Santorini
Turkey Chomp
White Beauty

My sincere thanks to Patrina and Ray for many of the above varieties. Hopefully next year I’ll have saved seed to share/trade.
So what varieties are you all planning/growing this season?

Mark

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato Seedlings


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Looking good Mark, Well done !!
My tomato season is just about coming to a end as the weather warms up.
Still have heaps of fruit on the plants though, dont like to grow any tomatoes
in the very warm and wet months, too many problems, plus the fruit fly.
Cheers...MM


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oh god, they look so good. we are just planting our green manure crops to get the soil ready to plant in november.
ahhhh sydney, I remember it well


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Yeah! Let the baby photo season begin! *big fanfare*

I've started some seeds a bit more than a week ago, so most of them have germinated and are planted into their little pots. They barely peep out from the soil, though.

Nice list, Mark. Will post mine soon, too :)


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Hi MM, Adamus and Spatz,
Good to hear from you all.
MM: How about a few more details....what varieties have you grown? Productivity? Problems? etc etc.
Adamus: What's on your growout list this season?
Spatz: Glad to hear someone else feels like me...look forward to seeing your list.
C'mon people.....details!!! LOL

Mark


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Well, I have a modest little list, still in planning.
AHEM......
Stupice
Giant White Beefsteak
German Johnson
Snow White
Orlov's Yellow
Livingstone's Giant Oxheart
Azoychka(don't know if it's the real one.
Moldovan Green.
Jaune Negib, coz it was amazing last year.
Anna Russian, Same reason.
Verna Orange
A couple of the College ones would be good.
Paragon.
That's it so far. But some more will come. It's great having the room to grow them.


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I'll be sowing mine (44 varieties) this weekend. I have an area on the deck next to the central heating chimney where I germinate the alpines and perennials so they'll have to move over.
I think I'll have to run a market stall at Marysville to flog off all the spares. Last year I gave some to my Italian neighbour up there; he gave some to his daughter and she gave some to a mutual friend. Visited his place later in the season and saw these enormous plants full of fruit (Cherokee P) so I knew where they came from!!
(Sowed the rest of my Italian and Ailsa Craig onions today)


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Well Mark for the past 12 months I have not had much luck with my tomatoes. They start off fine, then if its isnt the jolly rain ( that is when we get it ) heaving down in a deluge and all the fruit spliting, or they get Blossom End Rot, Also get Early Blight, Fruit Fly then the Ibis's fly in and have their fill.

I planted seeds of Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, and Tom Thumb and while we were down in Melb, my dear neighbour did not look after them as well as I do, and I lost the lot. So Hubby went and bought a punnet of Grosse Lisse thats all that was available here, and I didn't have the heart to start on seeds again or much time, sadly there is no taste in them , they are either flowery or watery. I then bought a punnet of First Prize last month and I think they have gone to sleep as they are hardly growing. I have had enough for this year. This Autumn we bought a few trailer loads of sandy soil and mixed it with the huge pile of other soil which has a fair bit of clay in it and compost we had down the chook yard for four years, so cant blame the soil for the diseases.

This Winter I have had two separate bumper crops of Snow Peas, Spring Onions, and three lots of radish gee those Yates Gentle Giants are huge crisp and taste yummy also plenty of Silver Beet for the chooks and Bok Choy so at least I am growing something. I have six veggie beds and I rest them over the Summer sometimes I grow a cover crop, but not this year as we are already on water restrictions, and they say it may get down to bucketing and I am too old for that, so till next February I will leave seeds growing alone. Cheers...MM


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Oh Misty, sounds terrible. Ray and I will grow a "misty Patch" of tommies, coz I know what cruel masters they can be. Any faves?.


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Ok some of those Cherokee purple will do ( And you can call them Purple Mist ) I was really looking forward to tasting them, actually I just may plant a few seeds today and when bigger pot them up would it be ok if I put them in the Garage overnight then back out in the early morn, hoping the bugs dont overnight in the Garage as well, or are they too big for pots, and if so could you recomend one that would grow in a pot, but someone may have to give me the seeds as I only have about five different varieties here:::: Thanks...MM


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Hi Mark,
Great list and well researched, I reckon. I just made the following after careful consideration...

Grub's Tomatoes 2005/2006
(*Denotes grew last year)

Slicers
Akers West Virginia
Arkansas Traveller
Brandywine OTV
*Brandywine Sudduth
Brazilian Beauty
Box Car Willie (two new sources)
*Box Car Willie (not, but nice, from last year)
*Cherokee Purple (new source)
Crnkovis Yugoslavian
*Dr Neal
Earl’s Faux 2003
*Faux Cuostralee
*Fluted Marianna’s Peace
Kellogg’s Breakfast x Akers West Virginia
Kornesevvsije
Lithuanian
Lucky Cross Pink F4
Mortage Lifter Ester’s Strain
Mule Team
Picardy
Red Brandywine
Russian 117
Russian Red
*Soldacki
Stick

Earlies & Determinates
Jaune Negib
*Jaune Flammee
Homestead 24F (pots)
Kimberly
New Big Dwarf
Mountain Princess
Sophie’s Choice
Totem

Hearts
Ernesto
Rinaldo
German Red Strawberry
Prue
Wes

Bicolours
Burrackers Favorite

Other Colours
Golden Monarch
Golden Queen
*Grub’s Green
Hughs

Cherries/Currants
Broad Ripple Yellow Currant
*Dr Carolyn
Matts Wild
Quartz Multiflora
Sara’s Galapagos

Pots
X 10 from above tba

Ends.


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The man's Crackers, I Tells Ya ....CRACKERS!!
Should be great.
I have a feeling I'm going to find more to plant....it's always the same; start with a methodist mentality, and end up with a CAtholic one. Ho Hum....
I have to plant three for my Sister. She's dying , and can't garden anymore. A keen gardener, this year I'm planting a commemorative plot. Does Anyone know if there's a tomato called Libby or Elisabeth?.


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Sorry to hear that... I did a Google and nothing came up. But there are some with lovely names all the same such as Red Rose, Marianna's Peace and Sante Lucie and stuff. Maybe there's an Elisabeth or Libby in some other produce? Looking forward to pics of your patch soon. Best, grub.


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We thought, actually, we could do five varieties with a name starting with the letters.
Leibenstaube
Indian River etc.
My Sister has had a very hard life. She feels getting Cancer is just bad taste on the part of her maker.


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Hi Gang,

MM: Sorry to hear about the problems you had. I grew my toms in two different locations last season and had blight problems at one location and fruit fly at the other, so I sympathize fully!

Lomatia: Care to share the varieties?

Grub: An awesome list!!! You have some varieties I am considering for next season. I’ll be interested in your end of season report and maybe swap, trade, buy, beg, borrow or steal some seeds?
I should have clarified on my list that the following are regrows from last season:
Anna Russian (equal second best tasting tom from 2004)
Black Krim (equal second best tasting tom from 2004)
Cherokee Purple (Best tom from 2004 for taste and production)
Hawaiian Pineapple (First one was awesome, but fruit fly got the rest…give another go)
Hillbilly: (Didn’t look like the descriptions and photos I have seen. Will grow again and show everyone for their opinions….I think it may be Marvel Stripe)
Livingstone’s Stone (Great taste but fruit fly problems)
White Beauty (Two plants, only one fruit set and then Blight killed the plants quick. Will try in a different location)

Adamus: Also a great list and I’m sure it will grow! So sorry to hear about your sister. If you can’t find a variety called Libby or Elisabeth, how about commissioning someone or having a go at hybridizing a new variety yourself?

Mark


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Good idea Adam re the varieties.

Mark,
I was plagued by the dreaded Fruit Fly mid-to-late season and everyone here seemed to have the same problem. This year, I'm going to hang those pots and take precautionary action. I don't think any one variety is more or less susceptible to them. The reds, the hard hybrids, the oranges all got whacked.


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Mark, Great piccies. Looking good.

Grub, try FF exclusion bags, though bagging all the fruit though wouldn't be much fun. The traps are of two kinds - one lures the males only, and while it reduces the numbers a little, one male can have it off with a number of females! The other is a general trap I think. Again useful but not a cure. An old bloke Len knows hangs an open container of diesel fuel around and claims the fumes keep them away.

As to lists, I'll leave that in Adam's hands, apart from a couple I want to grow for the Great Aussie Tomato Growout, plus Tenessee Britches which I promised I'd grow out and distribute.


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Thanks for the FF tips. I'm all ears. But what's the deal w/ Tenessee Britches? Why the devotion? Is this the Holy Grail? Cheers, Grub, guzzling grape juice on friday night w/lotza volume :)


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I've got to rely on "wild" seedlings this year - my saved seeds from last season all went mouldy.

Hopefully I'll have some black russians, green zebras, yellow pear, ox hearts and some (methinks) tom thumbs. There's quite a lot of tomatoes coming up all over the place, so it's a case of if they want to grow there - that's where the stakes go.


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38 sown including a heirloom mix so who knows what's in there!!!
The list:
Amish Paste
Amish Salad
Australian Red
Azoychka
Black Cherry
Brandywine
Brandywine Sudduth's Strain
Bull’s Heart (Cour di Bue)
Cherokee Purple
Craigella
Debarao
Dinner Plate
Druzba
Druzba
Fritsch
German Red Strawberry
Gregori’s Altai
Heirloom Mix
Howard German
Imur Prior Beta
Jaune Flammé
Kellogg's Breakfast
Lutschist Zurich
Moneymaker
Mystery Green (fromRay)
Oregon Spring
Oregon Spring
Peron
Pink Ponderosa
Polish Linguisa
Pomodoro T2 Improved (Italy)
Regina's Yellow
Rio Fuego Nano (Italy)
Black Russian
San Marzano
San Marzano Redorta
Silvery Fir Tree
Sweetie
Zapotec Pink Ribbed

Anyone grown Italian Giant Pear strains, German Giant or Giant Belgium?
I'll make a list of the onions another time!!


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Lomatia,
Great list, indeed!

Is the Heirloom MIx from Diggers and labelled Russian Mix? If so, I've grown the mix and, in hindsight, twas fun. Includes Black Krim, supposed Azoychka, an Orange SIberian, an early red one, and some others. Seven types all up.

When you post your onion list I will be very jealous. I'm no good at all at onions.


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David, I got it in a swap from Spatzbear (or PP?) Not sure! Grew some seedlings last year but didn't get them in. One had an extremely finely cut leaf I remember.


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Well I'm going to have a very short list this year due to the impending move so I'm very jealous. I'll just bore you with photos of my new house (when I find one)
Never mind there's always next year!!!!


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  • Posted by Fin_ Wollongong_NSW (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 28, 05 at 19:07

I got my seeds in last week and the first plants have just popped their heads up.

My list for this year is:

Jaune Negib
Earl's Faux Brandywine
Pale Perfect Purple
Jaune Flammee
Rose Quartz Multiflora
Black Early
Cherokee Chocolate
Purple Cherokee
Brandywine
Palmwoods
Husky Gold
Rouge De Marmande
Polish Giant
Schimmeig Crag
Principe Borghese

Hopefully I'll have more luch with my seedlings this year than last casue I'm looking forward to trying out all these varieties.

On top of these seeds I still have a yellow tommy toe (pretty ordinary) and a sweetbite red cherry that I mamaged to get through winter down here, so hoping for some early cherries :-)


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Early cherries would be good. I cheated and bought a Sweet Bite with flowers on it y'day. Also have a volunteer with flowers coming. Nice list. We have some similar types and might be able to compare notes.

Sarah,
Maybe I will try some cages, too.

John,
Maybe the one with finely dissected leaves in Silvery Fir Tree?


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Remember the tomato patch I started last year? This year I am finally putting in garden egding so that it may be easier to walk between the rows. This is the view from the bottom of the patch. There'll be more garden beds to the right.
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And this is the patch from a different angle
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Fantastic handiwork, Spatzola. What sized timbers are the borders? And are they just hardwood like say red or spotted gum?

Call in Amanda to weld some cages and lay some tiles :)

No sign of my green watering can, but I notice a pelagorium or geranium in the front left. I have a rose-scented one which I love scrunching and sniffing. When wlaking to work I know of two mint-scented ones and there's a lemon one you can get too. But I think yours are flowering types?

Seems to be some other nicely established trees here and there. Top plot. Have a cuppa and some cake.


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Grub, these are old pieces of decking that I'm re-using. No idea what it is. I only know it's untreated wood. Thank goodness.

The geranium you can see is a red-flowering one, there is a lime pelargonium close-by. The latter only has small blue flowers.

Oh, and your green watering can is at its usual spot. Outside the garden shed. You might see it in the picture below.
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That is my green watering 'can" alright, but you are such a tease. Those little white labels and black tubes wouldn't contain babies would they?

I know they say two transplants to maximise root shock but I was thinking of sowing three seeds straight into containers of about that size and then thinning to the strongest one and then transplanting straight out.

You haven't done this, have you? The other way with raising them in cells, transplanting into cups, and then back into the patch is fiddly. Then again I might just have to fiddle.


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  • Posted by pepino Werribee Vic (My Page) on
    Tue, Aug 30, 05 at 20:45

And what do the 3 larger pots on the left have? The garden looks great Spatz. Keep up the good (hard) work.


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Well spotted, pepino. These are three of your namesakes. :) The one in the middle is not doing anything at the moment but the two on each side are going great guns!

Grub, yes, these tubes contain babies. The white labels are a bit overpowering at the moment, but not for long, as the babies are growing nicely. I start the seeds in seed punnets, and as soon as they emerge and are starting to grow a bit I put them in those tubes. Don't want them too leggy. I don't know yet whether I'll repot them again or just put them in the ground. It depends on how well they are doing and when I will be able to plant them out.


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Will you fly up and sow mine? Where's Finbar when you need him, eh? Very Spring here right now.


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Well, great looking plot Fraulein. Wait 'til ya see ours, Got my first rocket today, and the green manure is pumping. You're gonna have some serious tommies eh?.


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Rocket rocks. I'm looking forward to the images from your travails, Adam. Found any clay yet?


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Tommies in the jiffy pots
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In the seed trays on the heating bed
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The onion seedlings waiting to go in. (There are more direct seeded in the ground)
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Some of the babies transplanted already (now the gales have finished)
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we're just soaking overnight here, then tomorrow it's into the hothouse. love the pickies, wish you all luck.


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Great going Lomatia. Keep us allup to speed on the success of the Jiffy pots. You're transplanting onions. Hmm. I will try this after the tommies. Lots of good prospects in your pics. Bit cold here now. Last cold spell for the year, me thinks. Cheers.


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Hi guys, I'm back:-)

The list so far. All are up apart from the last two that just arrived in the post yesterday. I will post pics of greenhouse soon.

Cherokee Green
Brandywine Red and Suddeths
Momotaro
Gregoris Altai
College Challenger
Box Car Willie
Cherokee Purple
Delicious
Soldaki
Zogola
Big Beef
Arkansas Travellor
Druzba
Dr Lyle
Anna Russian
Aunt Rubys German Green
Kellogs Breakfast
Sioux
Carbon
Prudens Purple
Polish Dwarf.
Mortgage lifter - eslters
Father Tom
Fritsch
Cherokee Choclate
Marianas Peace
Wes
Eckerts Polish
Russian Red
Paul Robeson
Striped Turkish Monestry
Marammeno
Gioia della Mensa


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Great list, Mantis. And welcome back. The last one sounds interesting. Not sure what the literal translation is but I'llhave two helpings and another bottle of pinot grigio thanks.


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Thanks Grub. The last two are from http://www.growitalian.com, and if you would like to try them by all means let me know. They arrived yesterday and each pack has 300 seeds. I could broadcast seed all over the backyard and just sit back and wait eh :-)
According to Trudi on the other site, Marammeno are a determinate, that produce flushes of two inch fruit, that skin easily and a great for juicing etc. Gioia della Mensa is an indeterminate that produces larger fruit.
But eh, isn't this a photo thread :-)


From left to right accross the back are Gregoris Altai, Box Car Willie and Brandywine suddeths. GA has flower buds starting.


In the forground are from left Cherokee Green, Momotoro, BCW, Delicious and Kellogs Breakfast. In the background are 11 others in the old part of the greenhouse.


And heres a Polish Dwarf that Micheal in the US warns me not to over fertilise or it wont be a dwarf for long :-)

Cheers
Mantis


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Here's my list of tomatoes sown in the last few weeks:

Aunt Ginny's Purple
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Black Cherry
Black Early
Black Krim
Black Plum
Black Prince
Broad Ripple Yellow Currant
Burpee's Globe
Cherokee Chocolate
Cherokee Purple
Cuostralee
Elfie
Druzba
Earl's Faux (Brandywine)
Earl of Edgecombe
Early Pixie
German Gold
Golden Delight
Grub's Green
Herman's Yellow
Ida Gold
Jaune Flamme
Jaune Negib
Kellog's Breakfast
Kotlas
Lemon Boy
Little Lucky
Marianna's Peace
Moldovan Green
Nebrasca Wedding
Nepal
Neve's Azorean Red
New Big Dwarf
Oregon Spring
Pale Perfect Purple
Pink Gaetano
Purple Calabash
Regina's Yellow
Rouge de Marmande
Santorini
Silvery Fir Tree
Soldacki
Striped Cavern
Striped Turkish Monastery
Syrian Giant
Tasmanian Blushing Yellow
Teardrop
Wild
Wuhib
Yellow Brandywine

Quite a lot of them are new to me this year. So this will be interesting. I'll save as many seeds as possible and will be happy to share them with you all come next autumn. :)


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Great list Spatz. My daughter picked out Striped Turkish Monastery as her tomato to grow. Will be interesting to see how they turn out.
Have you grown Santorini before? I have seeds but haven't sown any yet.
Cheers Mantis


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Oh God, so the Madness starts again.
My updated list will be soon. "OH LOOK, I'VE FOUND MORE TO PLANT."
I used three beds planned for tommies to put the tatties in this morning, so Now we'll have to start joining beds together so as to fit all the tommies in. Yee Hah.
I feel like Slim Pickens riding the bomb out of the Enola Gay.


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ahem...here is the updated list...

German Johnson
Livingston's Giant oxheart.
Great White beefsteak.
Orlov's Yellow.
Juane Negib.
Moldovan Green.
Concrete red.
Marriana's Peace.
Sophie's Choice.
Paragon.
Tennessee Breeches.
Joe Thienmen's Australian Rad.
Earl's Faux.
Black Cherry.
San Marzano
Sioux.
Silvery Fir Tree.
Orange Heirloom.
Burracker's Favourite.
Aunt Gerty's Gold.
Azoychka.
Ballandean Roma.
Jaune Flamee.
Kimberly.
Clear Pink Early.
Verna Orange.
Heatherington Pink.
Oleyar's German.


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Wow!!!
There sure are some great growout lists this season. There are a few varieties on each that I'm considering for next season...I'll be interested in hearing how they perform for you all.
Also, great photos of babies and beds.
Grub, I used jiffy's for all my tommie seeds last season with excellent results. I found they still need potting on before planting out because of the profusion of roots the seedlings put out.


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Grate pics Oz. Even the basil looks happy.

Spatz, I thought you were cutting back. Lol.

I can't wait for the insalata caprese.


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That is cutting back for Spatz , isn't it?. Snicker, chortle.


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Mantis, I haven't grown Santorini before, so it will be interesting to see how this one goes.

Grub and Adamus, I AM cutting back. Really. I'm just numerically challenged.

What I figured out was that if I only grow 1 (ONE) plant per variety I am definitely cutting back. Cause it won't be as many as last year. Plant wise. Right? Right?!


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Hi Spatz, I looked up Santorini and it is a cherry so I wont be sowing it. I haven't got any cherries in and am going for Russian Reds and Polish Dwarfs for salad toms. Also have my Nepal X Tommy Toe cross that I have just sown. It should produce small toms.
One per variety, what if that one does no good. Prehaps two per variety might be safer :-)
Mantis


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Thanks Grub.
Yeah the Basil is happy, as is the Italian flat leaf parsely which I cant do without after growing it last summer. Wonderful stuff that kills the curly leaf stuff for flavour.
Was watching a cooking show on pay tv the other day, and an Italian women was cooking something.
She says "now we adda the parsely, we usa the flat leaf parsely for the taste. You only usa the curly leaf parsely fora the decoration eh"
I have at least 4 million curly leaf seedlings coming up jeez, oh well the chooks will like it.

Mantis


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52 varieties x 2 is still 1 plant less than last year. Oh no! I HAVE to cut back.

Santorini sounds actually really nice. Even though I don't really need another cherry.

Flat leaf parsley is the way to go! Definitely. I have it self-seeding in my garden. It's a must. So are the chives.


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Not only are they up but they're into the pots already.
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But when will the perennial seedlings be done?
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What about all the cuttings?
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Have done some of the double Hellebores but a lot to go!
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Great going everyone. Lomatia, I'm very impressed with the vast quantity of seedlings and cuttings. As soon as the beds are done, I'm into it!


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Ray and I have cut back to 53 varieties. Ray was only going to grow four, but somehow got sidetracked. "oh NO...., I'm not getting obsessed like last year...Why would anybody need that many?"
Yeah right. Our first seedling today, an Azoychka from the States.


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Was going to plant out 20 odd seedlings today but the weather has turned cold. So I only planted out 5 in pots that are a bit protected. Having to choose from the assemblage below is a bit of a worry :-)


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"Having to choose from the assemblage below is a bit of a worry :-)"
A nice problem to have!!!
Also, a great pic Mantis.
Wish I could post a photo in a message instead of providing a link...oh well.
Reasonable day here so I planted out Earl's Faux, Cherokee Green, Cherokee Chocolate, Marianna's Peace and Lucky Cross.
Spent nearly an hour working out where I'm gonna put all the others!
Gee...I LOVE this time of year!


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I love this time of year as well.
I decided that since it was too cold to plant more out, I would do the deed on the babies I had lined up for grafting. So with razor blade in hand and grafting clips I did 6 of them with side by side grafts. Just have to wait and see if they take.


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Ballandean Roma, an Aussie selection from Ballandean in Queensland, popped up today. Will take pics next week when a few more have shown their heads. We're in for some hard frosts very soon. I hope the hothouse proves its worth.
Mark, if you have a service provider, you have web space to upload piccies that you can then post in your messages. Happy to send you a 'how to' if you're interested.


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Oz, they're great pics. And you're right Mark. I just got the fever again today. Here goes another fun packed year of highs and lows.


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Wouldn't mind a few pickies . We live vicariously through others this time of year, until ours are in the ground.


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Ok Adam. Rather than post them here I have updated my web site.

Here is a link that might be useful: My Patch


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Flowers starting to open!!!!. Oh I forgot other people live in a world with warmth. Great pics. . I'm going to print them and show the littlies in the pots here. get 'em jealous, and shame 'em into growing. thanx mantis.


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LOL Adam. Went to the final of the local footy here yesterday and froze our asses off. Showers all day and about 12 deg. Then a frost last night that wiped out a Prudens Purple that I had even covered with a pot. Some warmer weather next week we hope.


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Hello to everyone.
I felt left out of all the activity so here is my effort. This shows the famous upturned table which doubles as a cold frame. And no, alas Grub, I did not get my inspiration from my local-that would be more like 'wearing table on top of head'.
As you can see, this propagation device is the cutting edge of sophistication and technology, cleverly devised with much insight-about 10 mins preparation time.
I have one solitary Little Lucky that has come, although I am getting some late stragglers coming up now, so you never know?
Cheers
Craig

Here is a link that might be useful: Babies in an upturned table: A questionable upbringing?


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Pretty neat coldframe Craig! I have questions... Do you actually germinate in there, and if so,do you leave them in there overnight?

I've got a small plastic greenhouse that I put mine outside in during the day, but so far I've been bring the flats back inside overnight. Well, actually, now that a few have started emerging, I left the flats in there last night for the first time. It's probably about 8 degrees C overnight at the moment.

PP


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Thanks for the pics, Craig.

And great to see you got one of Tom's Prue's to germinate. Was this from this 1997 stock? And what gives with Isis Candy variations?

Anyway, it looks great and nice and simple. Still can'tget over the extent of Lomatia's spring sowings and cuttings.

PP,
I look forward to hearing Craig answer your questions. Last year, my bubs were set back from 8C nights. IMHO, that's too cold. But what wold I know.
Thanks for the stuff. Best to you and your bubs, :)grub.


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  • Posted by pepino Werribee Vic (My Page) on
    Sun, Sep 18, 05 at 19:09

Great stuff Craig. Good to see someone else is growing Prue. It was one of my favourites at Rutherglen. I will be sowing mine shortly.

My dad has germinated tomatoes recently in a tyre with a glass cover (outside). They seem to do ok. And on the weekend I noticed volunteers coming up in my garden, so perhaps it isn't too cold for them.


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Well I had to bight the bullet and plant my babies out. Some of them were suffering from being root bound in their pots. This is the latest I have waited to plant out yet.


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Mantis,
The little fella in the background looks as excited as you!


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He knows his place Grub, and its not in my tomato patch LOL
He has a habit of chewing off sprinklers and drippers and any thing plastic.
I have trained him to chase off blackbirds, which is a bonus when the toms start to ripen.

The middle pot above has a Sioux in it that was under so much stress it has opened flowers. I hope it recovers.


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  • Posted by pepino Werribee Vic (My Page) on
    Sun, Sep 18, 05 at 23:24

Yeah I know what you mean about their plastic fetish. Great to see plants so advanced. Are they grapes on the trellis?


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Yes Pepino they are grapes. Not sure if they are a good companion for tomatoes but I guess I'll find out.


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Lesson learned the hard way!!!!!
Had a major setback. A huge drop in temperature the other night froze everything in the hothouse. Have to start again. Unfortunately, I lost the only "Tennessee Britches" seedlings I had, with no more seeds to replace them. The others I have seeds for so will start more off but not till next month now.


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Bugger.


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Great photos Craig and Mantis.
Ray, sorry to hear of your losses. If you want any seeds give me a holler.


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Hello to everyone on the forum.
No, nothing complicated about my raising of tomato babies. I germinate them in the cold frame, leave them there until ready to plant out. Overnight temperatures can drop to 3-5C. This doesn't seem to phase them that much. My winter conditions are surprisingly mild. I can grow Monsteria, Ficus, Calatheas and even Banana plants outside-no fruit of the latter unfortunately! Even Sungold F1 can be trialed in a warm north-facing position over winter.
I have noticed that germination can be a bit variable with some seeds emerging 3 weeks later, although it would appear to be varietal as well e.g. Black Russian all germinated together but 2 weeks later than the bulk of the seeds.
Freezing will kill them, 5-8C will only delay them. But this is balanced with 25C that is experienced by the seedlings during the day under the plastic. I also find the plants tend to grow well even with cool nights when enclosed under the plastic.
One of the benefits of raising tomato plants this way, provided you can avoid freezing them, is that they become hardened off and more able to cope with set backs in temperatures on planting out.
I agree with Ray though. If you experience heavy frosts and 0C temps in the mornings then it is sensible to protect those seedlings inside at night until conditions improve.
I had to try Prue this year. After tasting it at Rutherglen it is a must try. I think the seed was from Patrina and is dated 2004? Green Giant is going to be a great one to try as well.
This Lucky Cross Pink and its variations is proving to be a Rubik's cube. When you think you have stabilised a selection the next generation tells you there are still plenty of possibilities left. The black fruit regular leaf selection from F5 selections is segregating for leaf shape i.e. regular and potato leaf (unless I have crossed seed?). Hopefully my pink fruited regular leaf selections will be stable for F6.
Grub, what are variations for Isis Candy? All mine are regular leafed that I can tell.
Finished potting up 30 plants this evening into 4" pots. They will develop in these pots until ready to plant out. Will posts some more pictures of my growing toddlers at the weekend.
Cheers
Craig


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Ray, I think I have a couple seeds left of Tennessee Britches - will post them. Sorry to hear about the freeze! Bummer!

PP


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We were warned by the locals that they sometimes have a frost as late as mid November. Didn't listen. Nobody plants out here until Melbourne Cup Day. They don't start germinating 'til at least october. We've taken our littlies inside now, so they should be okay.
A few survived, and some more came up today, an Oleyars German, and a Moldovan Green, so at least our patch will be interesting.
I'll plant some more Clear Pink Early next week, and a few others.
None of my Anioleka Seeds came up yet. Maybe i just picked all the slow ones. I'm particularly hoping for the Livingstone's Giant Oxheart, (big plant , mediun toms).


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Here's Polar Baby flowering in the greenhouse. It's a bit on the wispy side (the plant not the greenhouse).

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And I finally finished the garden bed edging in the tomato patch.
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Really noice Spatz! I love your new edged beds. Now just pile in a few more inches of mulch and you have no-digs all set to go for a few weeks from now!

PP


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Thanks, PP.
I don't have to pile on more mulch. It's all ready. The no-dig is done. :)


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Ah, but it's like tomatoes, which you said you can never have too many of... isn't it? That comment will come back to haunt you when you have tomatoes coming out your ears again!

Actually I'm just trying to get you to do more work

BTW, I keep thinking you could submit one of your pics from last season for a new pic for the US Tomato Forum!

PP


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Ha! There's so much work around here at the moment, you don't have to worry that I'll run out of things to do. Thanks for your concern. *winks*


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What a great looking Tommie Patch, Spatz. Ours is a little more haphazard.
Will post pics in a few weeks.
We don't have the leafy aspect.


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Has anybody else got that horrible ad on this thread. You can't get rid of it until you tell KRAFT how wonderful they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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They know a good thread when they see one eh. Maybe they have a flag that puts the adds in threads with X number of replies, therefore targeting the most people.


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Not here. Have you disabled pop up windows in your browser?


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yes I have . That's the scary bit. It's not just a pop up like normal. It happened five times, and you can't stop it. It also takes up the entire screen, and doesn't have a close facility. it also says on the top. "optional Ad". No bloody option at all. Sorry, It's my pet hate.
I wrote the site co ordinators a "note", expresing my concern at having an ad from america on the australian website. seems a little unnecessary.


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Get a Mac. None of this poo-poo whatsoever.


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I'll boot this thing in Linux and see what happens.
Hey Grub, you know that the latest version of Mac/Tiger can be loaded on a runofthemill pc, scary eh. Maybe Mac has lost there "you get a Mac, You get our hardware mentality".
My goodnes this Baby photos thread gets off topic a lot :-)
Mantis


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OK, I am booted in Linux now. No pop ups or inserted adds yet.
Also, this is from Mozilla Firefox browser which may be the add killer.
Adam, if you type mozilla into google you will get to their site, from which you can download Firefox internet browser for free. Its a bit clunky but you wont get the pop up hassles as much.
Mantis


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Time for a photo. Two Russian Reds


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Thanx all, I got no reply from the co-ord of this site. Fireox is good, but my anti spy thingy has kicked in again.


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Mantis,
I did read that Mac are going with a new common brain or something. Now abut those Russian Reds. I have some nice ones up in the seed tray. Maybe 5/5. I think seeds came from Rosco. Anyway, it sounds like a nice little determinate, right? About a 4-5 footer. Have you gorwn it and if so does it need a stake. Something in the grey matter says tree tybe and sturdy. If that is so I'll plant 5/5 in pots.:)


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Thats all correct Grub. Should need a stake eventually. Heres my other determinate a Polish Dwarf that is just about to set fruit.


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And heres a Gregoris Altai that is setting fruit and growing at about 2 inches a day.


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Great pics of healthy tommies Mantis!
I've planted out a number of my plants these past two weeks and a number of them are developing their first flowers. The rest of my babies are in the hothouse and will be planted out in the next couple of weeks.


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First fruit on Gregoris Altai

And on Big Beef


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Yee haw, we've had a tommie explosion. Alot came up in one day.
Good to hear from Craig again. I wonder where he's been Lurking?. That's Craig from Melbourne, not the other one.


 
 

 

 


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