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Posted by Cosmicgardener N TAS Aust (My Page) on Fri, Aug 26, 05 at 2:09
| Well, its been a while since I bugged you guys with questions. The last time I planted some Globe artichokes on your advice and have been rewarded with 5 nice ones on the one plant I put in. Subsequently I grew some from seed and have devoted a decent patch to growing them but the original one is still crowding out the herbs in the herb garden. What I need to know is, if I move it after I've cropped its buds, do I need to cut it back to near ground and if I do, will it transplant OK to be with the others.
Hope the stars are shining for you guys!
Linda |
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RE: Globe Artichokes
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| Hi Linda I would let it flower, cut it back, wait for winter and then move it. They are tough little bardies.
Helen. |
Here is a link that might be useful: more artichoke info
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| Absolutely agree with Helen. They actually benefit from a bit of a thinning out. As you've discovered, the original one suddenly becomes 5 plants. Every 3 years or so it's good to give them a bit more room again and thin them out radically. They are tough and thrive on neglect. They are thistles, after all. ;) So, cut them back after the harvest and in winter you can divide them and transplant them. |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| Thanks both - that was quick! It's still winter here in Tassie - do you think I could get away with it now, given that we are still getting frost and chills? It really is in the way! Thanks again
Linda |
RE: Globe Artichokes2
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| Go ahead and do it. Perfect time. :) |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| Hey, what's going on with these things, I've tried growing them and was lucky to get 2 leaves all year, so I dumped a heap of chicken manure around them and they are doing better but still I find them VERY hard to grow at all. Do they need an alkaline soil or something like that? |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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The first one I planted I got in a pot from the herb section of the nursery. Knowing nothing about them, I shoved it into the herb garden which is heavy clay soil; not well tilled, and not fertilised apart from a layer of compost. There were two plants in the pot. It is now well over 5 feet tall with 5 artichokes at today's count. When I asked about them in the forum last year the concensus was that they would need a lot of space so I got seeds and planned a place for them. I decided not to move the first one at that stage. I got about 20 to grow in small pots - forgot to do anything with them for a while but they got to 4 leaf stage with neglect so I shoved them in just before we went on holiday in April. No idea if this is the right time, but they seem OK and are growing nicely. Again the soil is pretty impoverished because of the concrete at the base of the fence where I'm growing them. They are now about a foot tall and growing rapidly. They seem to need plenty water which we've had this winter. I have no real knowledge of them but 5 on the original plant is a pretty good haul. I suspect you might be treating them too well. I understand they are useful for reducing cholesterol.
Cheers
Linda |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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Hi Linda
I am transplanting my artichokes over the next couple of days myself (I grew mine from seed)...that info re cholesterol has sold them to me
I have just made up a batch of hawthorn Berry Syrup and started on it last night
cheers
peter |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| According to Sandra Cabot in the Liver cleansing diet, artichokes have an enzyme that is specific to reducing cholesterol and fat from the liver and blood. I juice veggies every day and have been putting an artichoke through the mix - that way you get the juice from the little leaves too. |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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Nicefrog, you can kill things with kindness. Globe artichokes like a healthy dose of neglect. Bung them in a corner (or wherever), the soil doesn't have to be that great, give them a little water to get them established. And then let them do their thing.
I've still got seeds, if you'd like some. :) |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| Spatz the few I have left (2 purple ones and one green one) are doing better now in their second year but are still small with maybe 4 leaves on each plant, I did start the two purple ones from seed and the green one from a small seedling but I was expecting them to grow much faster than they have. Do they grow better during Winter or Summer or just grow all year? mine seemed to go better over Winter but maybe where I have them planted is too dry during Summer |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| I've got about a dozen I started from seed, two varieties. They're doing well in their pot but it's nearing planting out time. The soil here is heavy clay (I'm sure Adam could throw a pot with it without having to do much to it) so I'll amend a patch with some el cheapo potting mix to improve drainage. Apart from that, I'm not planning on doing any more. Luckily they prefer acid soils and we've got plenty. |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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| My undertanding is that they like to grow in the very best soil. They used to grow wild on the plains on the western side of Melb, approaching Keilor, where the soil was gery rich. Unfortunately now much of that land is under iceberg roses and box hedge :-( |
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| I guess like any weed, they're opportunists. If there's good soil around why grow in bad! |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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Nicefrog, mine start growing in winter. Then in spring they do a big leap forward and just go berserk.
After all the harvesting is finished (by November, depending on weather, etc.) I cut them right back.
It's very dry here in summer. The artichokes don't get any water whatsoever during summer. But it doesn't matter, as they have done their duty and can relax in summer. All you can see of them in summer are dried stumps. Maybe the occasional green leaf close to the ground. I really can't imagine why yours aren't growing like mad. I wonder whether the drainage is good? They might not like to get water-logged. How much sun do they get? If yours aren't growing like mad this spring, I'd try again in a different spot. |
RE: Globe Artichokes
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Mine sat and sulked most of the winter - don't blame them - but the last few days they've really sprung as spring is sprung ( at least this week) and put on a lot of growth. The buds on the experimental one are filling out ready for the vinaigrette. Here's a little cosmic lore: Globe artichokes are ruled by Venus, planet of pleasure, prosperity, joy, and wellbeing. At the present time she is holding hands with Jupiter, archetype of big, bold and magnificent; in a good place in the heavens, - you can see them just after dark. Some pictures on our resident astronomer's pages below. So one would expect that they will start to thrive for this summer as we are about to reach the equinox and the change of season and there would likely be a good crop.
Linda Cheers
Linda |
Here is a link that might be useful: Canopus almanac
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