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I am sorry I have been inactive this past few weeks. I have finally worked out how to get back online with Garden Web! Its a long story so I won't bore all of you with it. But I am so excited to be back on and will try to make up for lost time. Well, what a season this has turned out to be. Despite the very hot conditions, and now the cold nights, my tomato patch has done very well so far. Did suffer enormous damage to fruit from sunscald though. Lucky Cross Pink has surprised me even more this season. I have managed to recreate Lucky Cross in a regular leaf form! After four years I have now managed to obtain what Craig NC sent out to me as seed back in 2002. Along the way I have Lucky Cross Pink, Lucky Cross Black and now Lucky Cross in a regular leaf. There is a stable selection of Lucky Cross Black with a regular leaf but two different fruit forms; one with the original fruit shape and the other with a typical large beefsteak shape. How did your plants do Grub? Ironically, it will be a black selection of Lucky Cross Pink that will be the most successful I think? There is one potato leafed form of the black selection that is quite tolerant to leaf disease, but will be late maturing. I will post pictures this evening. Patrina, your Bonnywein F1 plants have beautiful round red medium-large tomatoes. Did you want me to save seed from these? Grub, your Mystery Green have started to yield fruit. Unfortunately, sunscald has damaged a lot of them, but I will get some nice ones soon and will be able to tell you about the flavour. GMG is earlier than Green Giant for me. On the subject of green tomatoes, Hughs Green has proved to be a stable regular leafed indeterminate green tomato with small-medium green fruit. Will save some seed this afternoon and distribute some at the get together at Marysville. Ray, Burnley Metro is almost identical to Burnley Surecrop. I wonder if there was some confusion years ago when the seed was sent to Canada? I do not know the pedigree of Burnley Metro, although it is also a semi-determinate like Burnley Surecrop. Anyway, I have saved some seed and will give it to you at Marysville. Cheers for now Craig |
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| Hi Craig, And welcome back to the land of the tomato living :) You sure have been involved in some interesting growouts. I think this might be remembered as an excpetioNal season in Sydney, what with handy showers, sun and alternating hot andd cooler days. Fruit size is b-i-g. Lucky Cross Pink RL (F4) is a small perhaps 5ft-tall indet. with late maturing fruit. It hasn't helped that it's been overshadowed by some beasts around it. Yet I have some fruit set there. They appear to be medium-sized beefsteaks. Last I looked there was no colour yet. But I think there will be something to talk about in weeks to come. Sorry to hear about the sunscald. I had some of this, yet the unscalded sections still ate well. I am a little surprised that GMG got burnt, as it seems pretty resilient here. Must be that relative lack of PL foliage. Hughs (green) is a huge plant. Flower trusses form on the main trunk then before they can open they don't develop and fizzle. However, standing at 7ft tall, I'm sure it will do something soon. Lol. Golden Monarch has ripe fruit as we speak and I'm picking the first one tonight. College Cropwell has set fruit... HERE'S A FULL REPORT: Like wine, there are nuances to saviour, be it a smoothness, a great balance, an earthy undertone, some spiciness, lingering sweetness or other subtlety. Take Jaune Negib, an early yellow that some may criticise as being one-dimensional. While it was far from early for me, the mild yellow is just as welcome now as the big reds, exhibiting hints of loam and lemon on a soft palate. Then there is Wes, a big red heart, that’s not overly complex. But it’s a $30 bottle of red with great balance and aesthetic appeal. And German Red Strawberry, which is so fruity it reminds me of a top pink. It should be made into a cocktail complete with an umbrella. Of the pinks, Soldacki, Olena Ukrainian, Polish and Lithuanian all pack that sweet-tangy punch that almost leans towards the melon spectrum. Okay, maybe pushing things a bit far, but these are very full-bodied tomatoes, with huge slices, that sit well on their own. Or just on bread. Salt and pepper. Nothing more. Then we shift to the classic tomato flavours. Livingston’s Favorite, pumping out 8oz red fruit, and Red Brandywine, similar size, are great reds with virtuous, vintage tomato tastes. And headstrong growth habits to boot. The earlies, Kimberly and Sophie’s Choice, were more rewarding than I ever imagined. The former is a tomato factory, with sweet tasting golf balls that sweeten up some more in the height of summer. Sophie’s Choice has a more traditional tomato flavour, with scoffable big slices. The same can be said of New Big Dwarf and Mountain Princess. Russian Red is more like Kimberly. Very honest, prolific and salad-sized. They were all very good and I have trouble splitting them. I’m enjoying the zippiness of Jaune Flammee, again, the aforesaid mildness and colour contrast of Jaune Negib, and there are Cherokee Purple, Picardy, Arkansas Traveller, Cuostralee and Kelloggs Breakfast X Akers West Virginia (F4) cross to go. I have Rinaldo, Ernesto and Prue to pick and eat. Then there is Dr Neal, another nice pink that I have grown before. And in my slow patch there is Earl’s Faux, Box Car Willie, Mule Team, Neves Azorean Red and Mortgage Lifter (Esters Strain, no fruit yet). Akers West Virginia is just a wonderful looking plant. I hope it sets fruit soon. It has such pretty yellow flowers. In the Rainbow Patch I have Grub’s Mystery PL and RL Green, both of which have ripe 10oz fruit right now, to tuck into and save seeds from. I noticed two Golden Monarchs approaching ripeness this morning. The green variant of Hughs isn’t showing many flowers. Only a few fruit on Golden Queen. Amongst those towering plants, Marianna’s Peace, a nice PL pink, is struggling for light, but here come the flowers. Last but not least, my Fall Crop. I see fruit on Ashleigh, more Grub’s Greens, good flowers trusses on Green Giant, fruit on Grandfather Ashlock and another Neves Azorean Red. College Cropwell is setting some, while Yasha Yugoslavian thinks about it. And yet to try in pots: Persey is colouring up and Victorian Dwarf is loaded with mini beefsteak. In respect of cherries: Sungold tastes wonderful sans all the sugars, in a low-brix position receiving 2hrs direct sun in the morning, two hours dappled light at midday, and two hours sun in the afternoon. Perhaps this lighting isn’t bringing out the flavour of Matts Wild, which is okay. Broad Ripple Yellow Currant is nice and lemony, but as I have discovered it’s not a currant. Note to self: chase down that wee yellow currant with dynamic flavour you tasted interstate at the farmer’s market. Rose Quartz Multiflora (red) is a very nice prolific cherry and satisfying in every way. So there you have it. Plenty to celebrate and plenty to look forward to. I honestly can’t say there’s a dud amongst them. My palate is broadening, as with my mind, and I’m learning to appreciate that there is merit in a tomato whose taste isn’t necessarily a blockbuster. There are a lot of things that make an enjoyable tomato. This particular season, my fruits are just huge, disease has been kept at bay, and fruit and white fly are scarce. It’s destined to be remembered as a great growing season. I planted out late. The fall crop holds great promise. It will be interesting to see how late they yield and whether the wonderful taste sensations continue. Good growing to you all, |
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| Hello Grub! You have so well described my growing season too. Huge fruit, not much leaf disease and a lot of wonderful tasting tomatoes. I am surprised about Hughs Green though. It was one of my earlier ones and all three plants are nowhere near 7 foot high. Sounds like an Aunt Ruby's German Green? You are certainly right about appreciating those tomatoes that are not 'blockbusters' in flavour. I have a selection of Fusion's PL Heart that is a great tomato in terms of yield, disease resistance, but with a reasonable flavour. Which reminds me, I need to get some seed out to Fusion soon. The black selection of Lucky Cross Pink is more vigorous, although about the same maturity time. Will we see you at Marysville Grub? Until later Craig |
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| Craig, Actually, when I stop to think about, Hughs (green) has hit more than 8ft and is a multibranched animal. It's not in a sundrenched spot, which might explain it to some degree, but it gets at least six hours of good sun per day. Poor Prue alongside, a miser on foliage, has set some nice ones. And on the other side Dr Neal is doing alright. Maybe it will be late :))) I won't be at Marysville. Not that I don't want to meet up, au contraire. The timing would be pretty good for me tomatowise. It's just that I use one day per weekend for essential fieldwork for one of my employers and, moreover, a secret project that involves one of those hardcover things you thumb through in front of the loog fire. Looking forward to reading reports and seeing pics and/or just heearing that you all had a great time. Are you growing Golden Monarch? Will you save seeds from the GMPLG and, if so, would they be bagged or pure? Cheers, Grub. |
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| Hello Grub. I am sorry you can't come to Marysville. You could bring your employer along....!? I always grow Golden Monarch each season. GM has done well for me this season, plants are a little smaller than usual but a number of large fruit have been harvested since about the last week of January. I have already started to save seed from GMPLG. The taste is great by the way. And the fruit is large, beefsteak shaped and not much mishaping. GMPLG is one I will grow again. I do not normally bag flowers and find my rate of crosses is low. Because of the PL trait it will be easy to identify a cross in the batch of seed of GMPLG (being grown amongst regular leafed varieties). Cheers Craig |
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