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Seedling success?

Posted by julie_m Hot/cold/dry (My Page) on
Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 1:37

Has anyone tried raising their own cacti/succulents seeds?
I tried a heap last summer and had 50% success. I had amazing success with all the astrophytums but the dudleyas & agaves I REALLY wanted to see up didn't eventuate. I've researched on the internet and have dotted my I's and crossed my T's but this time round I want at least 80% up. Any tips on Opuntia Santa Rita and Agave zebras? I've tried soaking & filing.


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RE: Seedling success?

  • Posted by andy_sa South Australia (My Page) on
    Sun, Jun 25, 06 at 6:20

Yep, tried it a few years ago when I ordered some succulent and pelargonium seeds from overseas. I also raised some dragon fruit plants from seed. Great fun if nothing else!
I used a heated mat (had to go to the hydroponics store for this one...) the second time round and got better results.


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I have had some success with seeds. I set off one lot during our autumn (sept) and another lot in early spring (march). Although I had roughly 60-70% success, the seeds planted in spring did the best. Now they are looking bigger an healthier than the ones who had a 6 month head start.

I used mixed C&S packet seed so I can't tell you which did better from there. I did have separate packets of mammilaria and lithops, both of these did way better than the mixed packet.

Lithops are very easy to sprout, just hard to keep alive!

I didn't use anything techincal. Just an old take-way plastic tub with holes in the bottom. I microwaved the soil for five minutes. Let it cool down. Soaked it through and let it drain. Then I just spinkled the seed on the top put the lid on and left it on a sunny windowsill.

Within a week the lithops were out. The others took a week or so longer. After a while I opened the lid a little to give them some air. I kept them shaded from strong sun by lying a tissue over the lid. They are still doing fine. The humidity is the key. And microwaving the soil keeps the environment sterile.

Here they are at three months old. They were repotted at around two months to give them a bit more room.

C&S mixed:

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Lithops. You can see they are developing their true leaves now:

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Swiss


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Thanks guys, I must admit I'm a bit impatient. The ones I put in last year sit there not moving and I can't wait til summer to get them going again. I'm told when cacti seedling go red with the cold they're terrible to get started again. Hope this isn't true.Swiss-you're seedlings look healthy, what stage do your lithops get to before they die? Maybe if you eased back on the water a bit earlier, what do you think? Yes Andy, I put in some fresh dragon fruit seeds and they were up next morning, I couldn't believe my eyes.What I'm going to do with 1 million little plants I don't know!


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hELLO, julie_m ,

I have never tried to grow cacti or succulents from seed but I am hankering to try.

Having said that I attended a lecture by an expert seeds man who essentially sells seeds now. But his lecture on growing from seed may be sumarized as follows get some bonsai soil mix. sprinkle your seed , then cover it with very fine gravel the sort you get from ann auqarium supplier and lightly cover it.
he prefered to water from the bottom ie placing pot or tray in water until it comes up close to the surface and then let it drain away.But the bit I found interesting was the fine gravel, sitting on top as it does it dries out quickly this frevents mould or fungi growing which he said was the greatest threat to new seedlings .

Now as to heat, he didnt talk about that much but he suggested using a small fan that you can find in an old computer to blow a breeze accros the surface. Now I dont know whether you would need a transformer for this , but some one might know.

I dont know whether it is as cold in Broken hill as it is in Bacchus Marsh but I suspect you get your moments. Have you considered a heating pad. Yhese are available from hydroponic out lets.. presumably they have a temperature control allowing you to heat from below and experiment with heat. I have heard that heat applied from the bottom is best for raising seedlings.

This is what philofriend said in part on the Us forum:
"I never found it necessary to use a heating pad with cactus seeds, especially this time of year[ie spring] when it's warm outdoors. Guess it depends on what you're sprouting though. The extra warmth can speed up germination. At the times I've used a heating pad, I put a towel over the pad, set a 10-gallon aquarium over that, set the pots in the aquarium covered in plastic wrap (checked daily so they weren't too wet or too dry), and kept the pad set on low until I saw the seeds had sprouted. You don't have to use an aquarium, that's just what I had readily available. But, this time of year, I starts things outdoors, let the natural heat and humidity do the work for me. If you use a heating pad, be careful so you don't catch things on fire."

As to what you can do with your hundreds of dragon fruit, I know what you can do with one hardy and mobile seedling. I promise I won't tell any one.

Baldric


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Hi Baldric - thanks for the info. I'll leave the heating pad idea for now, my family are about the make me live in the shade house now, if I bring any more plants, etc inside I'LL BE OUT! I've heard that it can take anything up to three years to get certain opuntias to germinate, they have to go thru a wintering process.Patience seems to be the main necessity. It would be nice if there were a website telling you the certain specifications for the germination needs of different cacti & succulents. So far I've learnt..soak epiphyllums for 1/2 hour, file and soak opuntias for three days,what doesn't need light and what does.The rest is trial and error. If you get a chance to try it out Baldric, you should give it a go...you too can look a pea-size green lumps for months on end...sigh!


 
 

 

 


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